re: The preaseason AP CBB poll is out

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I mean, I think Yurtseven will be good, but I'm not sure adding him (& Dennis Smith) to a team with a losing record the previous year should get you a spot in the preseason polls.

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Aw hell yea, you know I was just salivating for someone to take the bait.

Additions:

Omer Yurtseven (projected first round pick in 2017 or 2018)
Dennis Smith Jr (Projected top 5 pick in 2017)
Terry Henderson (Double digit scorer at WVU)
Torin Dorn (C-USA freshman of the year and double digit scorer)
Markell Johnson (top 50 recruit)
Ted Kapita (top 60 recruit)

Thats being added. Vegas has State with the 24th best odds to win the ship. Blue ribbon yearbook has has in the top 25.

And then theres this

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"I've talked to multiple NBA guys who have raved about N.C. State's overall talent. It's why I'll have them firmly in my Preseason Power Rankings -- despite some concerns about Gottfried. Dennis Smith has looked phenomenal to everyone who has been through Raleigh -- and the ball shouldn't stick nearly as much with him running the show as it did with Cat Barber. Smith should be a clear-cut lottery pick -- if he stays healthy. Skilled 7-footer Omer Yurtseven (possible first-rounder) still isn't cleared, but staff is confident he'll only miss a few games. Keys are a healthy Terry Henderson and addition of Charlotte transfer Torin Dorn. No glaring holes with this team. Athletic, have size, experience, depth, terrific PG. N.C. State has Top 10 overall talent.-Jeff Goodman"

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eta:

Just checked and states odds have gone up with 18th best. From 100/1 to 60/1

Its happening