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re: 1989 Football revisited
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:47 pm to Mattgobear
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:47 pm to Mattgobear
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Mike Archer's lack of recruiting caught up. LSU's Larry Coker.
man people are stupid about things they don't know.
Archer recruited highly rated players out of texas. most busted out here. Days of Prop 48, things were different in state etc...
Archer was not a bad coach. too young when hired as HC- yes. But his recruiting was ranked high, players didn't turn that way.
He coached for years in the NFL and NCAA after his time here. Well respected Def Coordinator.
Firing him and hiring Hallman was the worst decision this school ever made. Hallman coached HS after here and got canned from that.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:53 pm to danfraz
Should Archer have been kept longer in your opinion? Imagine had we gotten Spurrier like we could have.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:58 pm to danfraz
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man people are stupid about things they don't know.
Archer recruited highly rated players out of texas. most busted out here. Days of Prop 48, things were different in state etc...
Archer was not a bad coach. too young when hired as HC- yes. But his recruiting was ranked high, players didn't turn that way.
He coached for years in the NFL and NCAA after his time here. Well respected Def Coordinator.
Firing him and hiring Hallman was the worst decision this school ever made. Hallman coached HS after here and got canned from that.
Are you Archer's cousin? (serious question, because he always comes out of the woodwork on tRant when someone points out the obvious about Archer.)
Archer was a good X/O coach, but a horrific -- H0RRIF1C -- recruiter. All you need to know about Archer is that he had guys like Gary Pegues and Tommy Fabacher and Jamie Bice starting against SEC competition. That was the best he could do. To say he left the cupboard bare for Hallman is a gross understatement.
Scroll through this List and look at the 1992-1995 draft years, the ones with Archer's recruits as seniors, and tell me he didn't suck at recruiting.
quote:
1992 (12 rounds!)
3 57 Marc Boutte, DT L.A. Rams
3 60 Todd Kinchen, WR L.A. Rams
1993
**ZERO** in 8 rounds
1994
2 36 Kevin Mawae, C Seattle
3 69 Harold Bishop, TE Tampa Bay
1995
3 85 Rodney Young, S N.Y. Giants
6 172 Marcus Price, OT Jacksonville
So, by 1989, half of Arnsparger's recruits were gone and Archer was having to start standing on his own recruits, not including that he was handed some studs from Arnsparger like Tommy Hodson.
He was a terrible head coach. TERRIBLE. Not a natural born leader, and not someone who could match up on the recruiting trail. There is a reason he hasn't sniffed a HC position since then, yet continued to be a good DC.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:17 pm to danfraz
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man people are stupid about things
I agree, like claiming that prop 48 was the MAIN thing that caused the decline for LSU in the 90's.
Instead of acting like an a-hole to people on here when we're just having an innocent conversation, you should keep to yourself. Because all "that you know" is kind of stupid.
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