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re: Justification for shootings by cops...
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:55 pm to dallaslsufan
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:55 pm to dallaslsufan
Your friend is right.
The subject can have a pistol in his waistband or pocket, but if he is glaring at you (psychological intimidation) or just standing there not listening (verbal noncompliance), you're not justified to shoot even though those are levels of resisting.
Your argument doesn't cover the wide spectrum that would justify deadly force.
If he reaches for the weapon even though you are giving commands to keep his hands up, that level of resistance can be determined as deadly force assault.
The subject can have a pistol in his waistband or pocket, but if he is glaring at you (psychological intimidation) or just standing there not listening (verbal noncompliance), you're not justified to shoot even though those are levels of resisting.
Your argument doesn't cover the wide spectrum that would justify deadly force.
If he reaches for the weapon even though you are giving commands to keep his hands up, that level of resistance can be determined as deadly force assault.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:01 pm to zsav77
His argument clearly states that the person of subject is resisting arrest.
Are we just picking and choosing different scenarios?
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If he reaches for the weapon even though you are giving commands to keep his hands up, that level of resistance can be determined as deadly force assault.
Are we just picking and choosing different scenarios?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:06 pm to zsav77
If a cop tells you to put your hands in the air where he/she can see them, do it.
If a cop tells you to put your hands on the car and keep them there, do it.
If you are getting arrested and cuffed, let them do their thing, and once you get your phone call let your lawyer do their thing. Everybody lives.
Keep in mind that a cop may only have a split second to make a decision - and has to live with that, provided he/she gets to go home alive at the end of their shift.
I work with a lot of LEOs at different levels. I have not run into one who wakes up in the morning saying "I am going to shoot me somebody." I know there are a few rogues just like in any other profession. However, an overwhelming majority of cops are decent and honorable people.
The best way to avoid conflict with them (which most of them really don't want either) is to obey the fricking law. Plenty of talk about equal rights. Damned little talk about equal responsibility.
If a cop tells you to put your hands on the car and keep them there, do it.
If you are getting arrested and cuffed, let them do their thing, and once you get your phone call let your lawyer do their thing. Everybody lives.
Keep in mind that a cop may only have a split second to make a decision - and has to live with that, provided he/she gets to go home alive at the end of their shift.
I work with a lot of LEOs at different levels. I have not run into one who wakes up in the morning saying "I am going to shoot me somebody." I know there are a few rogues just like in any other profession. However, an overwhelming majority of cops are decent and honorable people.
The best way to avoid conflict with them (which most of them really don't want either) is to obey the fricking law. Plenty of talk about equal rights. Damned little talk about equal responsibility.
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