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re: Do we get desparate and take a shot at Hardy?
Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:30 am to ChewyDante
Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:30 am to ChewyDante
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What I'm saying is those things became truly organizationally destructive as a result of the fact that he was locked in on a massive contract.
Negative. Money or no money, Junior was going to act a fool eventually. Your problem is that you fail to see the overall picture. Galette had been a headcase. It was the reason he was kicked out of Temple & ended up at Stillman.
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A year ago, New Orleans Saints defensive end Junior Galette didn't have a place to play. He had been kicked off the Temple football team for a series of what he called "boneheaded mistakes, " including personality clashes with coaches and an incident in which his cousin was arrested for stealing laptop computers from the dorm while visiting Galette on campus.
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Admittedly I'm not particularly familiar with the ins and outs of Hardy.
Well you should have done your homework before posting on potentially signing him. His background information is laid out all in this thread. Have you even bothered to read what has been posted on him? If not, maybe you should.
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My only point is that if you think he can play and contribute this year and you can get him for terms that are reasonably low risk, then you at least consider it.
Here's the problem that you & other posters who approve of potentially signing Hardy fail to see. All you guys are doing is looking at is on the field possibilities, sacks & pressures. Yes, the team could use help in that department but for all the on the field positives Hardy could potentially bring, his character behind the scenes could cancel out those positives if & when he starts to act an arse. You guys fail to see the importance of team chemistry in the locker room & how one bad apple can completely divide a team while effecting the play on the field. Players like Hardy often deviate from actual play calls & their assignments, just to pat their own stats. Sound familiar? Junior did this very often. It's why he was such a liability against the run. Not only that but signing Hardy would create a national media circus around the organization which is something a young team like we currently have doesn't need.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:37 am to BigBrod81
It just amazes me how people think we can sign a guy like that after all the cleansing we have done over the last couple of years.
I'm not against bringing in a guy or 2 that has a couple character flaws because every team has a guy thats not a good dude, but Hardy is a complete disaster on and off the field.
Like i've said here before...even if you can overlook the legal trouble you cant ignore how destructive he is as a teammate.
I'm not against bringing in a guy or 2 that has a couple character flaws because every team has a guy thats not a good dude, but Hardy is a complete disaster on and off the field.
Like i've said here before...even if you can overlook the legal trouble you cant ignore how destructive he is as a teammate.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:43 pm to BigBrod81
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Negative. Money or no money, Junior was going to act a fool eventually.
Again, this is a strawman. I never said he wasn't, I suggested that what made him so destructive to the organization was that he destroyed the salary cap when we had to cut him.
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Well you should have done your homework before posting on potentially signing him. His background information is laid out all in this thread. Have you even bothered to read what has been posted on him? If not, maybe you should.
I really don't need to do intensive homework on the life, contract specifics, etc of a player to post general remarks on a Saints message board about at least evaluating and considering the guy. Come on dude, it's really not that serious.
And yes, I read the thread. I'm quite aware of all the guy's drawbacks that have been mentioned. I just don't know the ins and outs of every player's performance history.
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Here's the problem that you & other posters who approve of potentially signing Hardy fail to see. All you guys are doing is looking at is on the field possibilities, sacks & pressures. Yes, the team could use help in that department but for all the on the field positives Hardy could potentially bring, his character behind the scenes could cancel out those positives if & when he starts to act an arse. You guys fail to see the importance of team chemistry in the locker room & how one bad apple can completely divide a team while effecting the play on the field. Players like Hardy often deviate from actual play calls & their assignments, just to pat their own stats. Sound familiar? Junior did this very often. It's why he was such a liability against the run. Not only that but signing Hardy would create a national media circus around the organization which is something a young team like we currently have doesn't need.
I'm actually aware of all of that and have already addressed it. It's a risk and there are tradeoffs obviously. Once again, my point is simply that the staff should consider him. Meeting with the guy and making a determination from there.
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