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Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:29 am to
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:29 am to
Yep, just pack it up and run. That is part of the problem too. As long as the money just runs away, the problems won't fix themselves. The states in the South (and especially Louisiana) have set up a system of education (private/public) that guarantees 2 classes of people. Anyone with a semblance of means, puts their kids in private schools and rejoices when politicians announce more cuts in spending (where the public education system is taking a beating).

You can run from the problem, but don't complain about "them, over there" when you didn't do anything to help the community. Communities elsewhere are safe, and what you typically find they have in common are strong public school systems, where true integration happens, which brings up the quality of all the kids, that will eventually be then living amongst you in your community.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56711 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:57 am to
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Yep, just pack it up and run. That is part of the problem too. As long as the money just runs away, the problems won't fix themselves. The states in the South (and especially Louisiana) have set up a system of education (private/public) that guarantees 2 classes of people. Anyone with a semblance of means, puts their kids in private schools and rejoices when politicians announce more cuts in spending (where the public education system is taking a beating). You can run from the problem, but don't complain about "them, over there" when you didn't do anything to help the community. Communities elsewhere are safe, and what you typically find they have in common are strong public school systems, where true integration happens, which brings up the quality of all the kids, that will eventually be then living amongst you in your community.
I don't think they need my help.

That is the difference in my position and most liberals that think the whole is somehow responsible.

You seem to act as if the communities can not fix themselves...I think they can. They just choose not to, therefore, if they wont help themselves.

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when you didn't do anything to help the community
Sure I did, my community.

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and what you typically find they have in common are strong public school systems, where true integration happens
chicken or the egg
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12513 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:57 pm to
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Communities elsewhere are safe, and what you typically find they have in common are strong public school systems, where true integration happens, which brings up the quality of all the kids, that will eventually be then living amongst you in your community.
And what you find in communities that have public school systems that successful are families that make the commitment to be involved in their children's lives and make the communities (including the schools) better. The process does feed on itself, but it cannot successful originate in the schools; the home/family/parenting element has to be there first or any other efforts will almost certainly fail. It's like rehabbing an addict that doesn't want to quit; until that changes, all the money and counseling and facilities in the world are almost guaranteed to fail.

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