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re: Outside the top 4 in the draft who are the top 5 guys you want for this team?

Posted on 3/4/16 at 10:49 am to
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/4/16 at 10:49 am to
This is why I don't like Heild as MM explained.

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He scores because he has an amazing stroke and a quick release, and quite frankly, because he is smarter than everyone else on the floor. He takes advantage of young, undisciplined defenders who don’t locate him on the break or off of a scramble when his team gets an offensive rebound. What I don’t see is an amazing first step that allows him to get by defenders. I also don’t see a guy physical enough to finish in NBA traffic.



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Defensively, he will try, but he won’t be Klay Thompson. He doesn’t have the size or the lateral quickness to be elite on that end, and the best you can probably hope for is that he doesn’t hurt you there.



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At the end of the day, you want shooting around Anthony Davis, and Hield’s numbers this year (49% from deep on nearly 9 attempts) say that he can be elite on that end. But I would proceed with caution. First of all, he was an average 3-point shooter over the three years prior to this one. Secondly, I don’t love his stroke. He pushes the ball too much for my liking; It’s not a natural, smooth stroke. I think his shot could get blocked more in the pros, and I also wonder if he can maintain his accuracy with the line a few feet further back.


But for some reason people think he's Lillard and people forget how quick and explosive as Lillard is. When I see Heild i see a college kid playing a bunch of teenagers at the park.
This post was edited on 3/4/16 at 11:00 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
26868 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 11:25 am to
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He takes advantage of young, undisciplined defenders who don’t locate him on the break or off of a scramble when his team gets an offensive rebound


And the NBA is full of elite defenders?
On our team he would be the 3rd option at best. Not asking him to be the next Curry or Dwayne Wade.

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What I don’t see is an amazing first step that allows him to get by defenders.

When you can shoot from the 3, it's not that hard to get around guys.

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I also don’t see a guy physical enough to finish in NBA traffic.

I can agree with that.

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Defensively, he will try, but he won’t be Klay Thompson. He doesn’t have the size or the lateral quickness to be elite on that end, and the best you can probably hope for is that he doesn’t hurt you there.

He's proven that he's a workhorse. Being a good defender isn't always about having the physical tools to be great. If that was the case JR smith should have been an awesome defender. We know the guy is smart and will give the effort and that's a half the battle, and he's still athletic enough to be a good defender in the NBA.

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First of all, he was an average 3-point shooter over the three years prior to this one.


He shot 39% two years ago and 36% last year. I wouldn't call that average. His 24% as a freshman wasn't good.
Guys can become better shooters. That shouldn't be a knock on them for letting someone show them how to use their skills better and put in the practice to become elite at it like Hield has.

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Secondly, I don’t love his stroke. He pushes the ball too much for my liking; It’s not a natural, smooth stroke. I think his shot could get blocked more in the pros, and I also wonder if he can maintain his accuracy with the line a few feet further back.

Like Kevin Martin, who had 7 seasons shooting over 38% in the NBA, averaged over 20ppg in 7 straight seasons, who has an ugly pushed shot like he's 12 years old, who shot 32% from the 3 in his 4 years in college?

He's the runaway Player of the Year in college. We know he's a hard worker. We know he's got a fire in him. We know he can shoot. And we know he's a leader. How often does the player of the year not turn out to be a good nba player at worst? I'll tell you who, the last few white guys and Ed O'Bannon. The only black player that won player of the year that didn't amount to anything in the last 25 years was TJ Ford and Jay Williams, and that's b/c of injuries.


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Buddy Hield can come in and contribute immediately. I think he's got a sneaky good shot at being similar to DWade with more range and less athleticism.

The NBA game will open up his slashing game more, which is tougher to show in college.


I feel the exact same way about him.
This post was edited on 3/4/16 at 11:29 am
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1870 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:06 pm to
People said the same shite about Steph Curry. We see how that worked out. In no way am i saying heild is the next Curry, but he should make a fine NBA player. Disregard all the measurables. Sometimes you just have to watch a guy play to know that he is special. Heild will find ways to score in the NBA just as he is doing in college.
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