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re: Just started the Sopranos

Posted on 2/1/16 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 2:05 pm to
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I am sure it might not hold up as well since the nature of TV has changed & it probably isn't as far out there as it originally was.


I agree to a point. I think there were mixed signals going on. The family scenes were shot with an almost sitcom (or family dramedy) vibe that I cannot believe was an accident - some of the gangsters were played straight, and at the highest level of acting (I'm thinking Vincent Curatola's "Johnny Sack" character here), while others were delivered with a campy, over-the-top style (Paulie and Sil), without - quite - drifting into parody.

At that point, you had Michael Imperoli's Gen-X gangster, Christopher, trying to get his button in a changing landscape - and, despite the obvious self-reference to breaking into television/movies/music by a gangster - did a decent, realistic job of portraying a drug addict trying to function within the surrealistic gangster landscape.

But, putting the pieces together, with whatever inconsistencies, just worked for lack of a better word. I agree it doesn't hold up quite as well as my 2 big GOAT contenders from approximately the same era: The Wire and The Shield.

But, however much I like The Shield and enjoy Chiklis' portrayal of Vic Mackey, Tony Soprano is the greatest television character and Gandolfini delivers the greatest performance since Lucille Ball playing Lucy Ricardo (possibly excepting Leonard Nimoy's Mr. Spock).

And that's about the highest praise I can give. That's the gold standard.
This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 2/1/16 at 2:32 pm to
Jeez... do we have some millennials in here or what?

The Sopranos was like nothing else that had ever been on TV when it came out. Only the folks on here who had watched decades of TV prior to the Sopranos and then started watching The Sopranos when it came out can really appreciate that. Because if you had, there's no WAY you'd be badmouthing it. Much of what makes up "good" TV today is cribbed from The Sopranos. All these shows that people watch now and feel high-minded and sophisticated for watching are distillations of what The Sopranos did. You simply cannot take the Sopranos out of its context as The First. You shouldn't praise someone very highly for digging a 10' deep hole when a trackhoe dug the first 9' for them and they finished the next foot with a shovel. The Sopranos was the trackhoe. Sure, 10' is better than 9' but they didn't have very far to go.
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