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Digital Antenna into Pioneer VSX 50 Receiver

Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:24 pm
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:24 pm
Ok, another dumb question by me but I just purchased a digital antenna to get free hd programming on the local channels. My 7.1 system is controlled by my receiver which now also has my new Apple TV and all that stuff.

The question becomes, I can't seem to find a coax in line on my Pioneer VSX 50 receiver. Am I dumb and missing it or does this need a special adapter? The Digital Antenna is a regular male coax cable, nothing fancy.

Am I dumb?
Posted by arn
Member since Nov 2015
562 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:28 pm to
top middle? check and make sure your receiver can be used as a tv tuner. if not, you'll have to do something else

This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 8:29 pm
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:36 pm to
Yea, and I see that on the back of the receiver, however, my antenna has a screw in male coax cable (old school cable style). This input on the receiver seems to have a larger hole than the small copper wire from a coax cable and also doesn't seem to support screwing the coax cable on.

That got weird kinky.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

I can't seem to find a coax in line on my Pioneer VSX 50 receiver.


That receiver, like most on the market, does not have digital/analog video tuners. You'll likely be able to pass sound from your TV to the receiver without the need of a breakout box/standalone tuner. Whic tv model do you have?
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:22 pm to
You need to hook the TV antenna up to the TV.

AVRs don't have TV tuners. You may be misidentifying the labeled "Coaxial" port, which is an RCA input port for S/PDIF (digital) audio.

You also have an antenna port on your AVR that is a coax port, but that's for the FM antenna that came with it in the box. My VSX-1124 has a smooth one, while my Denon has a threaded one and would take a "TV" coaxial cable, though it wouldn't help it tune TV.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 9:20 am
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:29 am to
Well damn. That kinda sucks as it won't play sound from my receiver then.

Cutting the cord definitely has its limitations and drawbacks in a lot of cases.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:32 am to
It's an older Samsung 50 inch. Maybe from 2007 or 2008. My setup is weird though as the wife hates cables so we have a wireless hdmi to hdmi connecting the tv to the receiver. Doubt it'd pass sound TO the receiver as I think it only GETS sound passed to it with the video signal from the wireless hdmi
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
981 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 7:53 am to
you have a couple of options.

1) run a audio fiber connection from tv to receiver.

2) purchase this networked tuner and use your apple tv to watch OTA tv
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:24 am to
Damnit I love you guys. Seriously do.
Thanks fellas!
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80664 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:58 am to
You can also buy an XBox One, run it through your receiver, and get their TV Tuner Accessory to connect your OTA antenna.

May be more than you want to spend, but it is another option.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:19 am to
quote:

You may be misidentifying the labeled "Coaxial" port, which is an RCA output port for S/PDIF (digital) audio.



And I should have said "input", not "output".

Anyway, to get audio from your TV to AVR, the TV should have a digital output, probably optical, that will carry the DD5.1 commonly used by TV stations. If you don't care about surround sound, it probably has an RCA analog stereo output you can use.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:26 am to
Yea, I need to go take a look at where coax cables are placed on my wall in relation to my TV tonight.

I did have one additional question if I went the expensive wireless route with the following:
LINK

If I buy that HD HomeRun wireless extender, how exactly does that work? It looks like I plug that extender in and attach it to the Digital Antenna plus attach it to my wireless router. Then, in theory, I can get the Digital TV stations to TVs throughout my house, wirelessly, correct?

If so, that's awesome. Expensive, but awesome.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:40 am to
The HD Homerun isn't a wireless extender. It's a TV tuner that plugs into your wired network and is thus available across your network, including via wireless. If your TVs support DLNA, you can use it that way, and they have some apps for other devices. I don't use it that way, so I'll leave it to others to comment on how well it all works compared to your TV tuner WRT things like changing channels and whatnot.

I actually have the CableCARD version, the Prime, and I use it with Windows Media Center for a DVR solution. The Prime has three tuners built-in. I haven't kept up with the OTA versions and don't know offhand how many tuners they have; you need to find that out if you plan to use it simultaneously on more than one TV, because you'll need one tuner per TV.
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
981 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:05 am to
The SD OTA tuners have 2 tuners. There's an app on apple tv that you would use to tune to one of the tuners.

Channels App

I've never used this as I have a prime and on the android ecosystem. However, on the silicon dust forum there's other people who have used it.

For explanation of how to connect your system:
OTA antenna --> SD tuner --> router --> Apple TV --> TV

You would use the app on your apple tv to tune the channels from the tuner. Your apple tv would only use 1 stream from the tuner at a time, so you could connect another apple tv or ipad to watch the 2nd stream. if you need more than 2 streams at one time you need to add an additional tuner(s).

Make sure you get the Extend and not the Connect. Apple tv devices don't have MPEG2 decoders and the Extend will convert the OTA MPEG2 streams to MPEG4.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 11:10 am
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

You can also buy an XBox One, run it through your receiver, and get their TV Tuner Accessory to connect your OTA antenna. May be more than you want to spend, but it is another option.

Wouldn't another option be to take the TiVo plunge with the TiVo Bolt? LINK

I think I could then do the following, right?
Digital Antenna --> Tivo Bolt --> Pioneer VSX50 Receiver --> TV

I think I could even connect the AppleTV to the TiVo Bolt or just leave it on my receiver too. But the above scenario should work, right?
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:13 pm to
Bump. Because I'm ancy on the TiVo Bolt.
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
981 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:32 pm to
TiVo bolt would also work. There is a monthly/yearly cost associated with it.


For OTA there are free dvr apps that you could install on a computer to work as a DVR if you need it for another option. You could use a windows 7 PC with windows media center for a free dvr as well.


Do you need DVR capabilities?
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13321 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 5:38 pm to
Ideally yes. Something simple and easy which is why I was looking at tivo
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
981 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:04 pm to
Well that's totally your call. Want easy go TiVo. Want cheap go the other route I mentioned. Just need to decide how much you want to spend and when, up front or recurring.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
7056 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Bump. Because I'm ancy on the TiVo Bolt.



Same here. I'm ready to ditch directv. I'm going to test an antenna in my attic this weekend. I have a radiant barrier over most of my house but my gables don't. If my signal is strong enough that I can get the local stations, I'm going to buy a bolt and give it a try for the 30 day free trial period.
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