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re: Tuesday Gainz Train: what's on the menu?

Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:38 pm to
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they are activated in every single isolation chest lift you do.


Being activated and concentrating are two different animals. For chest workouts, based on goals, it is best to concentrate on your chest muscles, giving them the most attention. Your triceps will be activated out of necessity but they won't get the most out of the workout. For each muscle group you workout you want to focus on that particular muscle group. Just because muscles work together doesn't mean they get equal share of the load.

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Weighted dip drop set should take approx 2 mins. Rest 1 min. Weight dip drop set no.2 for another 2 mins. (that's 5) Rest 1 min and walk to dumbbell rack. Kickbacks with heavy dumbbells on each arm and dropset into lighter weight should take <2 mins. Rest 1 min. Another dropset. Walk out the gym.


That may work for you but I would have wasted 10 minutes of my life.



Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:42 pm to
We partyin in here?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13629 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:52 pm to
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Being activated and concentrating are two different animals. For chest workouts, based on goals, it is best to concentrate on your chest muscles, giving them the most attention. Your triceps will be activated out of necessity but they won't get the most out of the workout. For each muscle group you workout you want to focus on that particular muscle group. Just because muscles work together doesn't mean they get equal share of the load.



Well no shite?! Im in no way trying to say that your triceps take equal parts of the load.

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That may work for you but I would have wasted 10 minutes of my life.


Then you arent doing it right. You think putting approx 120+ reps on your triceps, many of them force reps AFTER a chest workout in that short of a period of time wont break down your triceps muscles adequately?

And youre right, I dont know that other guy and he doesnt know me. You dont know me. I shouldnt have critiqued and imposed my views so nonchalantly. I assumed that since he asked his trainer friend for a routine that he was a novice or out of the game for a long time type of lifter, which I then implied my own views on what I would assume a "hollywood friend trainer" to be (I know alot of trainers and many of them are douchebags that dont know what the frick theyre doing and they look like shite) and figured that I would try to help the guy out. Not many people go from zero lifting to 20 set tricep routine and stick to it for more than a month. I will, however stand by what I said about not needing that much volume to break your triceps down adequately. You can do 10-12 effective sets of isolation or a high tempo heavy volume routine like I suggested and tear them down to nothing to promote growth in much less time, which in time would allow someone that isnt as mentally motivated (perhaps the type of person that gets advice from a trainer buddy after a long hiatus from lifting) a good shot at sticking to being in the gym and trying to better themselves. How many people are signing up for the gym now due to a new yr's resolution? How will you and I see in there after one month?

Sorry for thread hijack, Calais, go with your routine if youre confident in it and good luck. It's great that youre getting back into it. Disregard all of my previous bullshite on here.
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