re: Lot of us have given Miles grief

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you mean the one who took us from 3-4 wins seasons to a national championship?

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He had one really great year that included a double digit home loss to UF. He had another really good year when an LSU team full of Dinardo players was able make it to the SEC Championship Game despite 3 losses.

Saban has been much, much better at Alabama than he was at LSU, and this really shouldn't be that big of a debate.

He's had one double digit regular season loss in 9 years at Alabama.
He had at least one per season at LSU.

In his first 5 years at Alabama, he had 2 undefeated regular seasons and 3/5 seasons with 1 or fewer losses.
At LSU, he had zero undefeated, 1/5 seasons with 1 or fewer losses.