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re: American Civil War Animated Maps

Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:25 pm to
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There are no maybes here.


Except that there were. Are you ignoring Maryland because you missed that part of my comment or because it is incredibly damaging to your underlying argument.

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At least for all the states who were willing to document their causes of succession.


I know that's what they said. The subtle and complex portion of it - slavery was a fairly polarizing issue North and South - after the EP, some of the upper Midwestern units were threatening to desert because they did not want to be perceived as fighting to end slavery. On the other hand, as you suggest, the founding documents of the Confederacy certainly express slavery as a significant cause for secession - but, again that complexity - the ultimate issue from the South's perspective was the right to determine the issue for themselves, rather than have it dictated by an increasingly aggressive anti-slavery movement in the North.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:37 pm to
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Except that there were. Are you ignoring Maryland because you missed that part of my comment or because it is incredibly damaging to your underlying argument.


I am not ignoring anything. It has been plainly stated that the reasons for succession were for slavery. Slavery was the catalyst for the entire thing. other aspects were of minor consequence as to what actually was the cause

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the ultimate issue from the South's perspective was the right to determine the issue for themselves, rather than have it dictated by an increasingly aggressive anti-slavery movement in the North.


Not really, they were using these excuses as to why they could/should keep slavery. Again, slavery was the initial catalyst. The issues they wanted to have the authority to set their own laws for, were about slavery.

You can say there were underlying issues for the civil war, but they are minor in comparison to the actual cause



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