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re: Season Record Prediction Using Mathematical Analysis of Point Spreads 2015

Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:46 pm to
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I'm no statistician, but the way you did it just defies common sense, IMO.

By this rationale, a team who is favored 90/10 in each game they play should post a 11-1 record... which just seems odd to me, similar to the example I used earlier with FLA, SCAR, CUSE, and ARKY.

Even if statistically true, it feels wrong.
I hear you. It feels wrong. However, consider these statements:

(1) To be 90% likely to win every game would require being a favorite in every game by 16.5 points. No team in the Power Five conferences is favored by at least 16.5 points in every game.

(2) That 10% chance of losing cannot be ignored. It literally means that a team is likely to lose 1 out of every 10 games. Thus a team who is favored 90/10 in each game is likely to lose a game if they play 10 games.

(3) You gut tells you LSU wins all four games against FLA, SCAR, CUSE, and ARKY. Me too. However, the odds say differently.

Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:49 pm to
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(1) To be 90% likely to win every game would require being a favorite in every game by 16.5 points.


based on what equation?

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That 10% chance of losing cannot be ignored. It literally means that a team is likely to lose 1 out of every 10 games. Thus a team who is favored 90/10 in each game is likely to lose a game if they play 10 games.


provided the teams are the same, the date is the same, and all other factors are identical for each of the ten games

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. Me too. However, the odds say differently.


WRONG, again.
Posted by chilge1
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:08 pm to
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(2) That 10% chance of losing cannot be ignored. It literally means that a team is likely to lose 1 out of every 10 games. Thus a team who is favored 90/10 in each game is likely to lose a game if they play 10 games.


See, this is the part I'm having a problem with. I look at it as you're favored to win 90/10 if you played the same opponent 100 times on the same day... but in reality, you only play them once. And can have only one of two results:

1-0
0-1

Then you move on to the next one... rather than the games building on each other. Again, using my earlier cause for confusion:

FLA - 80
SCAR - 70
CUSE - 90
ARKY - 65

You suggest that we'll go 3.05/4.00 = 3-1
My logic dictates that we'll go 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, and 4-0

Either way, 9-3 with room for movement in either direction is pretty much what we're looking at in August, so I can't take too much offense to your analysis.


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