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re: Game of Thrones: Who should get to kill ________? (spoilers)
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:05 pm to 68wDoc68w
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:05 pm to 68wDoc68w
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I don't know if you ever read the World of Ice and Fire but they go pretty in depth into Tywin's history. I got he wasn't an evil man. He was ruthless to his enemys and a hard man to like. Tywin was driven by his family's legacy and to keep the Name of Lannister a powerful one. Tywin's father was a joke of a lord, and would forgive people for laughing in his face and stealing lands out from under him. Tywin didn't like this and when he came of age he took care of all the enemies of house Lannister in the Wester lands. Also after his wife died it changed him completely. His entire drive in life is his family but its too a fault
I understand Tywin's inner workings, but you can't tell me what he's done to Tyrion simply wasn't evil. Having your entire guard rape your son's wife and then having your son finish her off is about as evil as you can get. Plus, I'm willing to bet Tywin told the Mountain to kill Elia Martell as well for what he perceived as spurning his daughter. Tywin's evil caught up with him, and he was killed over it. Tywin is a complex form of evil, but I still think was evil none-the-less simply for his treatment of Tyrion.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:25 pm to OMLandshark
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Having your entire guard rape your son's wife and then having your son finish her off is about as evil as you can get
No doubt it f'ed up, it cruel and in-humane, but I believe his motives for doing that wasn't pure evil, he was teaching Tyrion a lesson, that Lion doesn't lay with a peasant girl.
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I'm willing to bet Tywin told the Mountain to kill Elia Martell as well for what he perceived as spurning his daughter
No doubt, I know he told Gregor to kill her and the children ( I don't know if the rape was part of that order.) But that was out of political motives. He and Robert couldn't have any targs with a claim to throne alive, or risk having the targ loyalist continue to fight and the war never end.
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Tywin is a complex form of evil, but I still think was evil none-the-less simply for his treatment of Tyrion.
Yes and No. there were times that he treated Tyrion well. Hell he made him hand of the king. Also I tend believe Tywin when he said " do you really think I'd let them execute My blood", then Tyrion made it hard for him when he demanded a trial by combat.
But did Tywin dislike Tyrion... yes... "all dwarfs are bastards in their father's eyes".
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Also there is that theory that Tyrion really isn't Tywin son and actually the Mad Kings ( after he raped Joanna) and if Tywin feels he could not be his son but just can't prove that goes to his resentment of Tyrion.
Im only playing devils advocate here, Like you said Tywin is a complex man, but I don't him as evil.
then again there varying degrees of evil
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