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re: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (A Hideo Kojima thread)

Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by The Quiet One
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:40 pm to
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I always heard about the HD collection but I was never too big on spending $40 on two games that I'd already played like 1000 times and a handheld to console conversion, kinda felt like it would've been shitty. Did peace walker turn out well enough to make it worth picking up at its current price?


I'll be honest. I'm in the minority of the MGS fans in that I really liked Peace Walker. It's not at the quality of the console Solid series for obvious reasons, but I play it more than I do some of the others. I will say the Extra Ops missions are a grind and it's also a grind to search for and recruit all the best soldiers for mother base. You play the same missions over and over to do that. I love it, but I understand others who would not.

That said, you can breeze through the main story and give token effort to your mother base quite easily. The cutscenes are mainly comic-inspired illustrations instead of fully-rendered stuff you see in other games of the series.

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And I'm guessing based off of MGS4 when Ocelot refers to solid (or liquid, can't remember exactly) as brother that they have the same parents


MGS4 is all kinds of jacked up. In that game, Ocelot is known as Liquid Ocelot. Long story short, he is Liquid Snake in Ocelot's body throughout the game hence why he refers to Solid Snake as "brother".

The reality is Ocelot used hypnotherapy and manipulated his internal nanomachines to fool himself into thinking Liquid Snake shared his mind.

God, that's sounds even worse typing it and reading it back out loud. I thought MGS4 was awful.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81351 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:55 pm to
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MGS4 is all kinds of jacked up. In that game, Ocelot is known as Liquid Ocelot. Long story short, he is Liquid Snake in Ocelot's body throughout the game hence why he refers to Solid Snake as "brother".

The reality is Ocelot used hypnotherapy and manipulated his internal nanomachines to fool himself into thinking Liquid Snake shared his mind.


It goes back further than that.

In MGS, Gray Fox cuts off Ocelot's right arm at the elbow.

In MGS2, Ocelot grafts Liquid's right arm onto his stump, and with it, the nanomachines that were dormant in Liquid's corpse. Like everything Ocelot does, he played the long con in order to take down Solidus.

By MGS4, Liquid's arm was replaced with a prosthesis. In order to maintain the persona, Ocelot used intense hypnotherapy and psychotherapy to play the role of Liquid.

All part of a long con to bring down the Patriots' AI systems from within.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 11:56 pm
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:29 am to
yea that shite was far fetched even for metal gear. I couldn't remember if it was ocelot in liquids body or the other way around but yea, I remember the cutscenes being ridiculously fricking long too, I was around 16 or 17 at the time and there was a 0% chance I was going to stay focused for that long consecutively. I thought the boss fights were cool though, kinda reminded me of MGS1 in that regard
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