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re: (Not Common Core)-- Why are they teaching math this way?

Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89742 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:42 am to
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You don't have an answer...figured that much.


I do have an answer. Teach them 7+4=11 until they get it. I have no problems with offering them different tools to get there, but at the end of the day, they have to be able to answer the question, "What do you get if you add 7 and 4?"

It can be, "Oh, I know that 11 minus 4 = 7, so 7+4=11" - that's perfectly fine. But at the end of the day, single digit addition and multiplication, by rote, is the most efficient and effective path to doing more complicated mathematical functions.

I mean, we developed the atomic bomb and went to the moon with people educated like that - since we stopped doing that and started pussyfooting around in the classroom, promoting everybody, letting 1 + 1 = 3 if the child thinks that's the right answer - well, we just haven't achieved as much, as a nation, now have we?
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17118 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:15 pm to
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I do have an answer. Teach them 7+4=11 until they get it. I have no problems with offering them different tools to get there, but at the end of the day, they have to be able to answer the question, "What do you get if you add 7 and 4?


Then honestly, I have no idea what you are arguing against. Yes, there is a significant portion of the student population who can learn 7+4=11 with nothing more than basic techniques...I simply asked you what you would do for the students who can't. If you don't have an actual answer, then these "other methods" will give you an indication as to how one would attempt to bridge the gap.

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I mean, we developed the atomic bomb and went to the moon with people educated like that


Has nothing to do with it...and even if I did honor that point, I would argue that people who are top tier students naturally think about mathematics in multiple ways regardless. You aren't "developing the atomic bomb" with students who were capable of memorizing basic facts and nothing more.

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we stopped doing that


We didn't stop doing it. Every school still has flash cards, drills, and timed tests for basic facts.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:49 pm to
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I do have an answer. Teach them 7+4=11 until they get it. I have no problems with offering them different tools to get there, but at the end of the day, they have to be able to answer the question, "What do you get if you add 7 and 4?"

It can be, "Oh, I know that 11 minus 4 = 7, so 7+4=11" - that's perfectly fine. But at the end of the day, single digit addition and multiplication, by rote, is the most efficient and effective path to doing more complicated mathematical functions.

I mean, we developed the atomic bomb and went to the moon with people educated like that - since we stopped doing that and started pussyfooting around in the classroom, promoting everybody, letting 1 + 1 = 3 if the child thinks that's the right answer - well, we just haven't achieved as much, as a nation, now have we?


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