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re: How much difference will the flat seam baseball make?

Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:53 pm to
I understand your comparison but to even use a soccer ball to explain a .015" difference on two identical balls isn't an effective one. And for you to say that you're a physicist and act like the difference is going to be as simple as adding 20 feet to every fly ball is a joke. I've been trying to explain that it's not that simple and that people are setting themselves up for disappointment if they expect that to be the case. Baseball is a really, really unpredictable game with so many variables that changing something as small as seam height isn't going to be enough to overcome the dozens of other things that happen during the process of a ball leaving the pitchers hand to hitting the bat to leaving the stadium. Do you disagree with what I just said? Does a .015" difference in seam height make such an impact that it overcomes exit speed, rotation, trajectory, and all of the other major components that go into hitting a home run? If you spent a month writing out a formula for it, I'm just saying that I'd bet my life that the changing the seam height wouldn't change the final distance of more than 10 balls last year into home runs. End of story, you're wearing rose colored glasses if you disagree
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:56 pm to
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Does a .015" difference in seam height make such an impact that it overcomes exit speed, rotation, trajectory, and all of the other major components that go into hitting a home run?


He already tried to explain this to you.

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.015"


Thought it was .017
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85182 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:00 pm to
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act like the difference is going to be as simple as adding 20 feet to every fly ball
Link to where I made this claim please. Jesus. Is this how you're going to argue now? Because you're making it pointless for me to say anything else.
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I'm just saying that I'd bet my life that the changing the seam height wouldn't change the final distance of more than 10 balls last year into home runs. End of story, you're wearing rose colored glasses if you disagree
You're making a mistake here. You're talking about unpredictability of this year (which is true) and applying it to last year's results... which we can quantify in some way. A 350+ ft hit that stays in the park was hit pretty damn well whether it leaves or not. It obviously had decent spin and trajectory leaving the bat. All things the same and changing the seam height, WOULD add enough distance to send 20 or so balls out of the park.

Now if you want to talk about this year, I already addressed that there's a ton that goes into a homerun and agreed with you. But let's not pretend that it won't possibly have the effect people are talking about. And I also explained why people were associating PM's 60+ numbers to the change in the ball.

Anything else, John Rocker?
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85182 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:19 pm to
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Does a .015" difference in seam height make such an impact that it overcomes exit speed, rotation, trajectory, and all of the other major components that go into hitting a home run? If you spent a month writing out a formula for it, I'm just saying that I'd bet my life that the changing the seam height wouldn't change the final distance
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:25 pm to
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Of more than 10 balls last year into home runs
So basically I predicted the exact number? Hmm, and you used this as a quote as to why I'm wrong? I literally predicted that we hit 51 home runs
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