re: Dog training help - teaching a retriever to hold after retrieve

My dog had a shock collar on him for one single day and that was enough for me. Couldn't even feel it until 7, and when I turned it up to 9, he'd piss everywhere.

Got rid of it and did the training the old way. Worked perfectly in my opinion. I've only had, to hit him twice from age 2 to 7, which is pretty fricking good in my book. I don't put up with any amount of insubordination either