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re: Rush Limbaugh doesn't want Idris Elba as Bond. ..
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:15 pm to FT
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:15 pm to FT
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rather than a white from Scotland. But that’s not who James Bond is and I know it’s racist to probably point this out.”
White from Scotland. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't only one Bond actor fulfilled both of those qualifiers?
I'd support Elba having a turn as Bond but I'm a big Elba fan.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:18 pm to jacks40
quote:That's exactly the point. Rush didn't give a frick that Bond has almost always been English, not Scottish. He only decided to care about the source material when it went from white to black. That tells me that he isn't a fanboy, or someone who really cares about the source material, and just doesn't want a black Bond.
White from Scotland. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't only one Bond actor fulfilled both of those qualifiers?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:22 pm to jacks40
So I'm admittedly a pretty casual Bond fan, so I'm curious as to the thoughts from someone that's more hardcore than I am. Is there anything specifically written that suggests it shouldn't be an European white male? I only ask because it'd be like having a black guy play Jon Snow when he's pretty clearly written as a white guy with dark hair (and physical attributes plays quite a bit into the series). I can get that criticism (and we all know Rush is just baiting people so I'll just ignore his opinion).
And are we taking into consideration that Fleming's source material is primarily from the 50s-60s so it's possible that the character can evolve from what he wrote at that point?
And are we taking into consideration that Fleming's source material is primarily from the 50s-60s so it's possible that the character can evolve from what he wrote at that point?
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:59 am to jacks40
If it's gonna be a black dude I think it should be Chiwetel Ejiofor (born and raised in London).
The defining trait of James Bond is that he is British. The question is, can a black guy be this character. If the story is set in the 50s/60s, the answer would be no. If it's set in modern times, then I think yes. A real spy blends in, and I think a white guy (in a white-majority society) would best fill that type of role. But James Bond is flamboyant, so being a minority doesn't matter.
Interestingly, Bond's background was described as half-Scottish only after Sean Connery played him in a movie. Otherwise I think he just would have been English.
The defining trait of James Bond is that he is British. The question is, can a black guy be this character. If the story is set in the 50s/60s, the answer would be no. If it's set in modern times, then I think yes. A real spy blends in, and I think a white guy (in a white-majority society) would best fill that type of role. But James Bond is flamboyant, so being a minority doesn't matter.
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White from Scotland. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't only one Bond actor fulfilled both of those qualifiers?
Interestingly, Bond's background was described as half-Scottish only after Sean Connery played him in a movie. Otherwise I think he just would have been English.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 5:10 am
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