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quote: You obviously don't talk to many educated Republicans, I guess? I do. They talk about it, but the platform isn't "We hate the European welfare state!" or "We hate Chinese human rights abuses!" Instead it's "We need to do XYZ to avoid going down the path of Europe/China." The focus isn't on condemning countries abroad but on ensuring our domestic policies prevent us from becoming them. In the same light it makes sense that feminists wouldn't raise a huge ruckus over violence against women in the Middle East; they would be concerned with making sure we don't go down the path the Middle East did, and since we aren't in any realistic threat of doing so, there's just nothing to say.

It's not just the hypocrisy of the left and Feminist about Muslim violence in the middle east. It's Muslim violence in the U.S. as well. The presidants constant refusal to call any act by a Muslim in the U.S. terrorism no matter how gruesome or obvious the signs that their was religious ideology or terror acts at work.

Furthermore, it's the left and specifically feminist silence or in some instances outright defense of Muslims groups domestically despite the negative treatment of women and women's rights documented in multiple middle eastern and predominately Muslim majority nations.It's comes off a bit hypocritical and inconsistant when viewed through the prism of how the left attacks republicans every presidential campaign (war on women) for example.

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Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX

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Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:06 am to bigbowe80

Nowhere else except TD have I ever seen the phrase SJW

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Posted by Eden

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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:54 am to bigbowe80

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It's Muslim violence in the U.S. as well.

Examples? I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I can't personally recall any instances of Muslim violence against women in the US that feminists didn't condemn. If anything I tend to find they overstep and find examples that aren't there.

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Furthermore, it's the left and specifically feminist silence or in some instances outright defense of Muslims groups domestically despite the negative treatment of women and women's rights documented in multiple middle eastern and predominately Muslim majority nations.

Well, since Muslim groups domestically generally aren't responsible for violence in Islamic nations abroad - but, as your post demonstrates, they're blamed for it anyway - I don't really see where you're coming from here. Christians in the US aren't to blame for Christian radicals in the Central African Republic slaughtering people, why would Muslims in the US be to blame for Muslim radicals in the Middle East slaughtering people? I don't see the inconsistency in showing enough nuance not to categorize nearly three million people in the US by the most radical elements of a shared faith.

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It's comes off a bit hypocritical and inconsistant when viewed through the prism of how the left attacks republicans every presidential campaign (war on women) for example.

This I agree with 100%, but I think we should do the right thing in this situation by not stooping to their stupid childish blame game. Look at how Gardner won Colorado as one example of it working if that worries you, but honestly even if it doesn't win elections all the time, we should be better than this. It's why, for example, I don't want the people behind the Sony emails making racist jokes fired; sure, leftists called for others' jobs for the same thing, but I don't want people getting fired for making racist comments, so even though there's a lot of schadenfreude-driven amusement at the prospect of employment termination being turned back at them, I can't support it to get the world I want to see.

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