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re: Could Mullen co exist with Barry Alverez
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:45 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:45 am to Coeur du Tigre
This garbage about BA being the problem is ridiculous.
Bielema left because of the wifey. And he wanted to be the "man" somewhere else. But IMO if there were no Jen- Brett would not have left.His staff turnover was from guys climbing the ladder or just wanting a break from him. He wasn't well liked in Madison because he is ....Bert. But he could have outgrown that if he choose.
Andersen simply wasn't a cultural fit. A Utah guy and small school guy that wanted to move to a spread. He is much better suited for the underdog role of the Beavers. He was also frustrated with admissions and not getting his JUCOs in. He never fully got "Wisconsin"
Alvarez isn't perfect but he isn't a villain. He has built it his way and sustained it now thru 2 decades and what will be 4 coaches. No dips like a Tennessee or Michigan or even Florida. 13 straight bowls. We may not win at the pinnacle - but those restrictions in admissions and the geographical location of Madison make that extremely challenging.
Bielema left because of the wifey. And he wanted to be the "man" somewhere else. But IMO if there were no Jen- Brett would not have left.His staff turnover was from guys climbing the ladder or just wanting a break from him. He wasn't well liked in Madison because he is ....Bert. But he could have outgrown that if he choose.
Andersen simply wasn't a cultural fit. A Utah guy and small school guy that wanted to move to a spread. He is much better suited for the underdog role of the Beavers. He was also frustrated with admissions and not getting his JUCOs in. He never fully got "Wisconsin"
Alvarez isn't perfect but he isn't a villain. He has built it his way and sustained it now thru 2 decades and what will be 4 coaches. No dips like a Tennessee or Michigan or even Florida. 13 straight bowls. We may not win at the pinnacle - but those restrictions in admissions and the geographical location of Madison make that extremely challenging.
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:47 am to crazyatthecamp
Can you explain why Jen wanted to leave I never heard that part before. I have heard bert shutting down bars
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:51 am to crazyatthecamp
Barry is a arse hole I know a few kids who were recruited by him and have said how big of an arse he is.
These geographical execuses are garbage. You won't find the skill postions in Wisconsion as you would down south. All you have to do is take a recruiy down state street and they should be getting jungle fever by the end of the night.
These geographical execuses are garbage. You won't find the skill postions in Wisconsion as you would down south. All you have to do is take a recruiy down state street and they should be getting jungle fever by the end of the night.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 5:32 am to crazyatthecamp
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Andersen simply wasn't a cultural fit. A Utah guy and small school guy that wanted to move to a spread. He never fully got "Wisconsin
The fact that you think it is normal for a coach to have to leave to choose his own offense says more than anything else. Barry Alvarez is not letting people do their jobs and should either just coach himself or step down.
And by the way Meyer and Mullin are "Utah" guys and have managed to exist outside of that state. Besides which there is not much to "get" about Wisconsin.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:22 am to crazyatthecamp
So, in your own words, Fayetteville > Madison?
ETA: Your explanation actually makes sense, so ignore my "insult" which was posted before reading the in-depth explanation.
It's still almost unfathomable to me that a community not embrace a coach's wife knowing the effect that she was going to have going forward. It should have been a clean slate for Bert -- and certainly for her.
Alvarez has hired smartly twice now. He's got that going for him. Maybe he can do it again? All that to say, it's still never a clean slate for a coach at Wisky, and I wouldn't be surprised if more autonomy from Alvarez is a hanging point in the negotiations with the next coach if you don't snag another LO5 guy.
ETA: Your explanation actually makes sense, so ignore my "insult" which was posted before reading the in-depth explanation.
It's still almost unfathomable to me that a community not embrace a coach's wife knowing the effect that she was going to have going forward. It should have been a clean slate for Bert -- and certainly for her.
Alvarez has hired smartly twice now. He's got that going for him. Maybe he can do it again? All that to say, it's still never a clean slate for a coach at Wisky, and I wouldn't be surprised if more autonomy from Alvarez is a hanging point in the negotiations with the next coach if you don't snag another LO5 guy.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 8:31 am
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