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re: BR and Louisiana legal market question
Posted on 11/7/14 at 12:25 am to chongo
Posted on 11/7/14 at 12:25 am to chongo
I guess BR "big law" is Kean Miller, Jones Walker, the BR offices of Baker Donelson, Phelps Dunbar, and Adams & Reese and, and maybe Breazeale Sachse and Taylor Porter.
80-90 K sounds like the starting number I'd heard the past few years for those firms. New Orleans is surprisingly low considering the higher cost of living and larger offices. I might be wrong on this, but I think it's damn similar to BR. Maybe 5-10K higher (90-95, maybe 100). I believe Proskauer pays the highest, but they are a NYC firm (and I believe the only one in NOLA) and probably hire 1-2 new people a year since their office is tiny. Similar stature firms are hiring at 140 in Houston/Dallas, and as you know, 160K is the number for NYC. Not sure about DC or the CA markets.
No idea on the workloads. I assume someone like Hudson here will have a better idea, but my friend works at a top 10 firm in NYC and generally pulls 75 hours a week. My best friend's sister is at a similar firm and works either 60 hours or 80 hours a week.
I can't imagine the NOLA firms can be competitive paying 90K and expecting the same commitment but who knows? I have way fewer BR contacts, but they seem to work 50-55 hours/week. They are generally under 30.
I'm obviously not surprised Columbia career services is giving you nothing about the Louisiana job market. Most people heading to Louisiana after Columbia are usually the "save the world" types who want to work for a legal aid office for 45K.
80-90 K sounds like the starting number I'd heard the past few years for those firms. New Orleans is surprisingly low considering the higher cost of living and larger offices. I might be wrong on this, but I think it's damn similar to BR. Maybe 5-10K higher (90-95, maybe 100). I believe Proskauer pays the highest, but they are a NYC firm (and I believe the only one in NOLA) and probably hire 1-2 new people a year since their office is tiny. Similar stature firms are hiring at 140 in Houston/Dallas, and as you know, 160K is the number for NYC. Not sure about DC or the CA markets.
No idea on the workloads. I assume someone like Hudson here will have a better idea, but my friend works at a top 10 firm in NYC and generally pulls 75 hours a week. My best friend's sister is at a similar firm and works either 60 hours or 80 hours a week.
I can't imagine the NOLA firms can be competitive paying 90K and expecting the same commitment but who knows? I have way fewer BR contacts, but they seem to work 50-55 hours/week. They are generally under 30.
I'm obviously not surprised Columbia career services is giving you nothing about the Louisiana job market. Most people heading to Louisiana after Columbia are usually the "save the world" types who want to work for a legal aid office for 45K.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 12:29 am to Keys Open Doors
Top 1/3 for the big name firms sounds right as a bare minimum unless you have connections like a father who is a partner or are the son of a politician. But that's probably top 1/3 for schools like Tulane, SMU, maybe Vandy rather than Columbia. I doubt there is enough of a sample size to come up with anything for Columbia grads in BR or even NOLA. That being said, I'm sure some of the partners would love to have a Columbia JD on their website, and if you are married or engaged to a girl from Louisiana who has a steady job that will keep her in town, that should assuage their fears.
By steady job, I mean something that isn't easily movable (nurse, engineer, consultant). If she owns a local shoe boutique, that might actually be a lot better
By steady job, I mean something that isn't easily movable (nurse, engineer, consultant). If she owns a local shoe boutique, that might actually be a lot better
Posted on 11/7/14 at 8:05 am to Keys Open Doors
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Most people heading to Louisiana after Columbia are usually the "save the world" types who want to work for a legal aid office for 45K.
They do it for student loan forgiveness.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:06 am to Keys Open Doors
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I'm obviously not surprised Columbia career services is giving you nothing about the Louisiana job market. Most people heading to Louisiana after Columbia are usually the "save the world" types who want to work for a legal aid office for 45K.
This is also true. Orleans PD is somehow littered with Ivy Leaguers who can't be making more than $50,000 a year.
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