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re: Pope Francis endorses evolution and big bang
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:36 pm to TK421
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:36 pm to TK421
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Even the most devout Catholic will admit that doctrine has changed in the past two thousand years.
Doctrine has never changed. That's why it's called doctrine. Once that doctrine was put into place it remained the same all the way to the present day.
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Again, even the most devout Catholic in this thread has admitted that they started out worshiping in synagogues and moved into small homes when persecution began.
Which is nothing but semantics. Everyone knows the leaders in the early Church were Jews before they were Christians.
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There was no hierarchy or central authority.
Not true at all. The Apostles were the central authority ("As the Father sent me, I now send you..."), and Peter was at the head of the Apostles (The Rock, The Keys, Binding and Loosing). The men who succeeded the Apostles (the bishops) carried on their authority to teach and, as the canon developed, interpret scripture.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:43 pm to RollTide1987
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Doctrine has never changed. That's why it's called doctrine. Once that doctrine was put into place it remained the same all the way to the present day.
Catholic Church doctrine insist that no one is saved outside of the Catholic Church, so how does one jive this with the latest statements from the Pope that even atheists will be saved?
Pope Francis:
"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class. We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all."
"Outside the Church nobody will be saved. (Extra ecclesiam nemo salvatur)" (Origen, In Jesu Nave hom. 3,5)
"Outside the Church there is no salvation, thus membership in the Church is necessary." (Adam S. Miller, The Final Word, Tower of David Publications:Gaithersburg (1997), p. 16)
"Whoever wishes to be saved, needs above all to hold the Catholic faith; unless each one preserves this whole and entire, he will without a doubt perish in eternity. . . This is the Catholic faith' unless everyone believes this faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved." (Denzinger 39, 30)
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 7:55 pm
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