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re: Pope Francis endorses evolution and big bang

Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:59 pm to
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I said nothing of the sort.


Your claim is that the catholic church didn't exist at the time the biblical texts were written.

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There is no evidence of anything remotely resembling the modern catholic church before it was made the official Roman religion.


The only way in which this is true is if the official church of Rome established by Constantine in the 4th century, and the one which exists today, do not represent the early Christians who wrote those books. If early Christians DID believe what the catholic church believes, then the church did exist from the time of Christ. You don't need cathedrals and robes and centralized establishments to be a catholic in belief.

It's ok to be wrong, it's even ok to be upset that you're wrong, but what isn't ok is playing possum and avoiding admission of your fault. The early church fathers were very, very catholic in belief.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted by TK421
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:12 pm to
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Your claim is that the catholic church didn't exist at the time the biblical texts were written.


I'm not claiming that; it is absolute fact. But that is very different than your previous statement. I know subtleties often elude you, but that is bad even by your standards.

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The only way in which this is true is if the official church of Rome established by Constantine in the 4th century, and the one which exists today, do not represent the early Christians who wrote those books.


One has very little to do with the other. The central tenants of Christianity changed little throughout history, that doesn't mean Peter was "pope" in the way Francis is.

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