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re: How were German armored divisions so much more elite than their US counterparts

Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:47 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:47 am to
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The Panzer IV's base design began production in 1936. It was not a heavy tank. I was upgraded throughout the war, but, never to the level of a heavy tank. History shows that by late 1944 the Panzer IV was obsolete.


It was a workhorse and the most produced German tank. They used it for everything. However, you're correct - it was never a heavy tank (maybe when it was first fielded, by comparison, it might have been called "heavy") - it was their "general purpose"/infantry support tank. The Panzer III was the tank with the focus on fighting other tanks.

What happened was - in the gap between the III/IV era and the late war V/VI (Panther/Tiger) era, was the T-34. The Germans required bigger and bigger guns to kill T-34s. As the IV had a bigger turret ring, it was more easily retrofitted with bigger guns. The roles, sort of, flipped for a short period, and ultimately they just quit making IIIs and kept cranking out IVs until the new generation of tanks were ready (ETA: This is technically incorrect - the Germans produced IVs until the bitter end, but they intended to ultimately field nothing but Vs and VIs).

If anything, the modern Main Battle Tank, is a descendent of late war T-34 and Panther models, rather than the Tiger, in other words, a tank designed to do everything fairly well. We've just developed the capacity to make them very well armored and very lethal, while maintaining relatively high mobility.
This post was edited on 10/25/14 at 9:58 am
Posted by H.M. Murdock
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:52 am to
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T-34


Most over rated tank of the war. Discussions of why also would lead to a very long debate.
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