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re: How were German armored divisions so much more elite than their US counterparts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:28 pm to Tiger1242
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:28 pm to Tiger1242
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Well we beat their Nazi Asses, so they weren't that elite
I dunno. Think about the size of Germany compared to the size of countries (combined) they were fighting against. They would have owned Europe if we didn't join in (and possibly saved the Russia attack for later after they established control)...
For a country of that size fighting wars on two fronts and still having a shot at winning is pretty remarkable. From a strictly military standpoint, yes, I'd consider them elite.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:35 pm to HeadChange
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For a country of that size fighting wars on two fronts and still having a shot at winning is pretty remarkable. From a strictly military standpoint, yes, I'd consider them elite.
They certainly outclassed the Soviets, who were eventually able to wear them down with sheer industrial capacity and manpower.
Take a look sometime at what assets they were throwing against the Americans and British in the drive to Germany. They still severely outnumbered us and had huge advantages in manpower, armor, artillery, etc on the Western front and yet they Brits and Americans were able to break them within a year of landing in France.
Do not forget that the United States was fighting an entire other war at this time (and the population disparity between Germany and the US wasn't nearly as large then as it is now).
Within a year of reaching contact with the Wehrmacht, the American and British armies were, both, man-for-man every bit the equal that the Germans were.
We never had more than 8% or so of our entire active force at the time on ground in the ETO. We could have wrecked shop if push really came to shove.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:35 pm to HeadChange
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They would have owned Europe if we didn't join in (and possibly saved the Russia attack for later after they established control)...
Hitler launched an invasion of Russia a few months before America entered the war. Without American involvement, I think all of Europe would be speaking Russian assuming everything else in history remained the same. Russia would have swept through Europe much like they did in WWII but they likely "liberate" France and refuse to give it back. The English Channel maybe saves Britain. In that instance, I think you have a situation at least as terrifying as Germany owning all of Europe.
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