re: Pew Poll from the Maher/Affleck

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However, my point is that most Christians don't really take the New Testament to heart in the way they live their lives. Most Chrisitians live their lives according to the "an eye for an eye" credo not the "turn the other cheek" credo. At least Muslims are up front about what they believe. Here's how Malcolm X put it:

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and you were posting "straw man" pics a few posts ago in this thread

that argument is pure straw man

the issue is western liberals want to promote western liberal ideals, but islam, as it is practice in the vast majority of muslim areas, is opposed to western/liberal ideas.

Christianity, pretty much everywhere, does not reject these ideals, and is a major reason for the proliferation of these ideals across the world.

that is the argument

a secondary argument is that western liberals have NO problem criticizing any socially conservative position of christianity, even though it is much more socially liberal than islam (essentially everywhere on earth). that is pure hypocrisy in ideological ideas

these polls reflect both arguments are valid