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re: Is the Liberal "Base" excited that Obama Declared War on ISIS?

Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:30 am to
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:30 am to
You guys actually see no difference in wars under Clinton and wars under Bush?

Let me give you a few hints.... In the wars under Clinton, American lives lost was in the single digits; with Bush 4 digits. In treasure under Clinton the costs was in the hundreds of millions and low billions. With Bush it reach a trillion. With Clinton we had no occupation. With Bush we had occupations.

You got one thing right... Clinton had a surplus. Bush lied and said Iraqi oil would pay for it all.

And yet I have never seen one Con blame Bush for that lie.

Go figure.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:32 am to
Would Bush have gone to war if Clinton had accepted the Sudanese offer of Bin Laden?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89745 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Let me give you a few hints.... In the wars under Clinton


No American interests were pursued - merely humanitarian.

OEF (Afghanistan) were directly in response to 9/11. OIF was discretionary, but justifiable (and Congressionally approved) based on Hussein's misconduct. I can disagree with how we fought both wars, but not the goals themselves - and they were both directly in support of U.S. interests (unlike Clinton's playing at war.)

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Clinton had a surplus.


Myth. Propoganda. Spin. Accounting games. I can't call them lies, but the most fair way to describe this was the budget was in "near balance".

The reason I know this? The debt never went down. So, if there was a surplus (Hint: there wasn't) - somebody stole it.
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