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re: What should the USA have done after 11 September 2001?
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:40 pm to Champagne
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:40 pm to Champagne
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Thanks for hijacking the thread, jackass, and you are full of crap.
ISIL exists because of Obama's precipitate withdrawal from Iraq created the opportunity for ISIL.
Obama ignored the advice of all of his military advisers and did not leave a follow-on stabilization force of US military.
If Obama HAD left a follow on force, the task of dealing with ISIL now would be easier. There's a good chance that ISIL would not exist right now, had Obama followed the advice of his military advisers.
As it stands, Obama told us that he ended the war there, but, there it is -- we are again fighting in Iraq AND we are poised to commit acts of war on a sovereign nation (Syria) with whom we are not at war.
AQ, ISIL and groups like this are going to exist for all time. They are never going away.
Bush's plan was to create a stable peaceful Iraq that would NOT be a failed state that could host AQ. In retrospect, we can see that it was a risky gamble that had a low chance of succeeding without a 20 year US presence in that place.
Oh you make this so easy my friend.
Why were we in Iraq? W. A "follow on" force would not have been necessary if we had just kept our eye on the prize in the Afgan desert.
And what moron invades another country without a plan what to do with said country after the bombs stop. W.
I understand my friend that you guys don't really like hearing the truth.
But embrace it because the truth shall set you free.
The policies of W, created ISIL.
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:01 pm to asurob1
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The policies of W, created ISIL.
That's completely false. Organizations like AQ and ISIL are never going away, no matter who is POTUS.
The challenge that faced Obama was to manage the Iraq situation that Bush created. Obama has failed to do that, as he has failed in other areas.
If Obama did not care to competently manage US foreign policy, he should not have run for POTUS. Of course it serves his political interests to Blame Bush Forever. Those folks who possess the capacity for logical and objective reasoning know that blaming Bush in 2014 is not persuasive. Bush's connection to Mid East events is attenuated at this point.
You and your fellow travelers will Blame Bush forever because it's a useful weapon to use against your political opponents. It's no longer persuasive.
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