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re: Chris Matthews: Democrats' Dilemma If Rand Faces Hillary In 2016

Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:46 am to
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:46 am to
If HRC runs she'll be the D nominee and probably our next President. I doubt Rand can win as the R nominee, but if he does Hillary will beat him. A more moderate R would give her a tighter race.

If HRC doesn't run, I'm not sure Warren will but O'Malley and Cuomo will, plus many more.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 3:11 am to
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I doubt Rand can win as the R nominee, but if he does Hillary will beat him. A more moderate R would give her a tighter race.
Moderate R's have been nominated since 1988 and have largely failed. I think Rand is a very important player if the republican party is to move forward and "modernize". He is to the left of Hillary on drugs, foreign policy, police, and civil liberties. Sorry wfel, but I think you are absolutely wrong when you say the republicans need to trust the moderate establishment. Moderation does not win elections, bold ideas do. The democrats are much bolder than republicans when it comes to ideas, and it sells to the voters.

Rand has a clear ideology that people can trust, unlike Romney and McCain who were not even genuine conservatives.

Like I said, people that voted for Kerry because they did not like the patriotic act and the iraq war, but then decide to vote for Clinton in 2016 against Rand, are huge hypocrites. Rand is addressing issues that are important right now- surveillance, drug laws, police. Hillary represents the status quo on all of those issues.

Hillary will do well with hardcore democrats who are old (like yourself, wfel), but she offers nothing for young folks, people worried about militarization, and folks concerned about the drug war.



And she has a tin ear. She has made some pretty bad mistakes the past few months.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 3:16 am
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12421 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:11 am to
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If HRC runs she'll be the D nominee and probably our next President. I doubt Rand can win as the R nominee, but if he does Hillary will beat him. A more moderate R would give her a tighter race.


In a lot of ways, Rand is a moderate R. In which ways should he be moderate, iyo?
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