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re: Metts stats for the game
Posted on 8/16/14 at 1:09 am to tigerswin03
Posted on 8/16/14 at 1:09 am to tigerswin03
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rogers is a pocket passer .... there will never be a qb with a long career that is a run first qb in the nfl .
How many run first QBs are actually starting? I'm talking guys with the ability to take off, but still pass well.
Newton 585 yards 6 TDs
Wilson 539 yards 1 TD
Kap 524 yards 4 TDs
RG3 489 yards
Smith 431 yards 1 TD
Luck 377 yards 4 TDs
Tannehill 238 yards 1 TD
Fitzpatrick 225 yards 3 TD
Foles 221 yards 3 TDs
Dalton 183 yards 2 TDs
What most of these guys have in common, is that they have only been in the league? the last 5 years. That is nearly 1/3 of the starting QBs in the league. The game is changing. DEs and LBs are getting faster.
Then there are guys like Locker, Cutler, Rodgers, Big Ben etc, who have great mobility. Add in Bortles by the end of this year too.
Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:14 am to Datbayoubengal
and of that list most of them are good passers also , my point was if you cant pass the ball you wont make it in the nfl ..
but we all know you don't have to be a running qb to be successful if your a good passer ....
but we all know you don't have to be a running qb to be successful if your a good passer ....
Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:16 am to Datbayoubengal
Outside of Wilson, what do all of those guys have in common? 0 Superbowls. And Wilson is a good QB, but his stats are hardly elite. His superbowl is more attributable to a great defense and run game. I might be slightly off, but I think something like 11 of the last 12 (excluding Wilson) superbowl winning QBs are:
Brees (1)
Roethlisberger (2)
Eli (2)
Peyton (1) -- (Also 5 time MVP and least mobile QB ever)
Rodgers (1)
Brady (3)
Flacco (1)
Brees, Rodgers, and Roethlisberger are decently mobile, but that's by and large a list of pocket passers. At the very least you can go back and check the stats and I guarantee most of them average less than 10 yards rushing a game. And the list goes further than that, but just keeping this to the 2000s. Mobility is nice, but the speed of the NFL almost dictates against it more than it requires it IMO. The scrambles you can get away with in college get stopped for losses or no gains in the NFL. And it gets you hurt. A lot of these guys are quick to tuck and run without going through their reads. I agree that I'd like my QB to have the threat to run, but the point is being a pure pocket passer is still the bread and butter of the NFL.
Peyton is the least mobile QB you'll ever see and all he has done is be MVP more than anybody in the NFL and set multiple QB passing records.
Nobody is suggesting that Mettenberger is on the level of Manning, Brady, etc., but to say his lack of mobility means he cannot be successful in the NFL is an idiotic statement. And while he has some room for improvement in moving around in the pocket, he's barely played one game's worth of snaps in the NFL. Give him time. He made MAJOR strides in pocket movement from his 1st year to his 2nd year at LSU.
Brees (1)
Roethlisberger (2)
Eli (2)
Peyton (1) -- (Also 5 time MVP and least mobile QB ever)
Rodgers (1)
Brady (3)
Flacco (1)
Brees, Rodgers, and Roethlisberger are decently mobile, but that's by and large a list of pocket passers. At the very least you can go back and check the stats and I guarantee most of them average less than 10 yards rushing a game. And the list goes further than that, but just keeping this to the 2000s. Mobility is nice, but the speed of the NFL almost dictates against it more than it requires it IMO. The scrambles you can get away with in college get stopped for losses or no gains in the NFL. And it gets you hurt. A lot of these guys are quick to tuck and run without going through their reads. I agree that I'd like my QB to have the threat to run, but the point is being a pure pocket passer is still the bread and butter of the NFL.
Peyton is the least mobile QB you'll ever see and all he has done is be MVP more than anybody in the NFL and set multiple QB passing records.
Nobody is suggesting that Mettenberger is on the level of Manning, Brady, etc., but to say his lack of mobility means he cannot be successful in the NFL is an idiotic statement. And while he has some room for improvement in moving around in the pocket, he's barely played one game's worth of snaps in the NFL. Give him time. He made MAJOR strides in pocket movement from his 1st year to his 2nd year at LSU.
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