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re: Would the Allies have won WWII without America getting involved?
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:42 am to Nativebullet
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:42 am to Nativebullet
Nobody could have handled Japan in the Pacific.
However, Russia pretty much handled the Germans from Stalingrad on - that was years before we opened up Italy and France.
Perhaps they would have run out of steam and settled on splitting Poland (more favorably Stalin's way) by 1946 or 1947.
Of course, we did logistically support the Russians - so if you remove America completely from the equation either lend/lease, or the other things we did pre-Pearl Harbor, and the more robust logistical things we did from December 1941 until we got our feet underneath us in early 1943 - maybe it goes the Germans way - it is difficult to say because of the massive scope and complexity of the war.
To put it in perspective, when you lay the war's pure volume next to all other wars fought before and since, combined, it dwarfs them. It is, by far, the most significant 6 years of conflict in all of human history. We are still feeling its effects some 70 years later.
However, Russia pretty much handled the Germans from Stalingrad on - that was years before we opened up Italy and France.
Perhaps they would have run out of steam and settled on splitting Poland (more favorably Stalin's way) by 1946 or 1947.
Of course, we did logistically support the Russians - so if you remove America completely from the equation either lend/lease, or the other things we did pre-Pearl Harbor, and the more robust logistical things we did from December 1941 until we got our feet underneath us in early 1943 - maybe it goes the Germans way - it is difficult to say because of the massive scope and complexity of the war.
To put it in perspective, when you lay the war's pure volume next to all other wars fought before and since, combined, it dwarfs them. It is, by far, the most significant 6 years of conflict in all of human history. We are still feeling its effects some 70 years later.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 9:43 am
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:01 am to Ace Midnight
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However, Russia pretty much handled the Germans from Stalingrad on - that was years before we opened up Italy and France.
Russia handled Germany by beating them in their own territory and for no other reason. Russia's lack of logistical sophistication and military leadership plus ethnic diversity would have made it near impossible to be successful marching into German territory. It would have ended in a stalemate.
Russia is a superpower due to their defensive position only. When Russia is on the offensive, they are historically horrible at utilizing their inherent advantage of manpower and they can't bring their defensive advantages of climate and terrain with them when they leave Russia
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Perhaps they would have run out of steam and settled on splitting Poland (more favorably Stalin's way) by 1946 or 1947.
The only reason it would be favoriable for the Russians would be because Germans would cut a piece to focus on western europe
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It is, by far, the most significant 6 years of conflict in all of human history. We are still feeling its effects some 70 years later.
Not even close. Mongol conquests easily outdoes this considering the death tolls and casaulty counts are estimated to be in the same ballpark despite the significantly lower world population. WWI also has a similar argument as well
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:04 am
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