Your whole rant assumes the guy did in fact run the stop sign(s). If he did not and that was the alleged reason for the stop, the entire stop was possibly illegal. However, without his recording and questioning of the cop, he would have no evidence to submit in his defense.

The cop's looking at his windshield only after the guy vehemently denies running the stop sign and saying the windshield is cracked, then later mentioning speeding could lead a reasonable person and judge to believe the cop violated the citizens rights by stopping him in the first place without sufficient suspicion or cause.

For those reasons, questioning the officer while recording was a good idea by the driver. However, he should have provided his license and registration quicker and should have been more respectful and compliant while continuing to video and continuing to probe the officers bs reasons for the stop.

This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 11:08 am

2 Jump to Post ...

Report Post Jump to Post

Posted by StringedInstruments

Member since Oct 2013

19030 posts

Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:10 am to WDE24

quote:
Your whole rant assumes the guy did in fact run the stop sign(s). If he did not and that was the alleged reason for the stop, the entire stop was illegal. However, without his recording and questioning of the cop, he would have no evidence to submit in his defense.

The cops looking at his windshield only after the guy vehemently denies running the stop sign and saying the windshield is cracked, then later mentioning speeding could lead a reasonable person and judge to believe the cop violated the citizens rights by stopping him in the first place.

For those reasons, questioning the officer while recording was a good idea by the driver if indeed he was wrongfully stopped. However, he should have provided his license and registration quicker and should have been more respectful and compliant while continuing to video and continuing to probe the officers bs reasons for the stop.

As someone with a master's degree, I like to think I'm a reasonable person. I don't think the cop violated the citizen's rights by stopping him for what the cop perceived to be running a stop sign.

The video is fine. The questioning is fine. It was his inability to allow the cop to do his job. Both participants in this situation have rights and one attempted to hinder the other.

Aren't you a lawyer? Does the cop have the right to remove a person from a vehicle if they refuse to do so after being asked to?

*I'd like to add that no where in my rant did I say that the driver indeed ran the stop sign.

This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 11:11 am

2 Jump to Post ...

Report Post Jump to Post

Posted by ZereauxSum

Lot 23E

Member since Nov 2008

10176 posts

Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:18 am to WDE24

quote:
Your whole rant assumes the guy did in fact run the stop sign(s). If he did not and that was the alleged reason for the stop, the entire stop was possibly illegal. However, without his recording and questioning of the cop, he would have no evidence to submit in his defense.

There's nothing wrong with asking questions. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing about the stop sign and about the speeding.

In the video, the situation turned when, for the 3rd time, the officer asked him for license/registration and the kid said "no,no,no...hold on" to continue to argue that he wasn't speeding.

He already stated he wasn't speeding. He had whatever "evidence" he needed to contest the stop.

The cop definitely failed to de-escalate the situation but there wouldn't have been a situation to de-escalate had the driver produced his license/registration after being asked repeatedly to do so.

2 Jump to Post ...

Report Post Jump to Post

O-T Lounge - Replies to Post

Return To Board

Page 1

Return To Board