re: Phil Jackson on Kobe and MJ

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Ok, so you're on record, whoever Magic and West has as their top 10 is gospel, concrete, and can't be argued against, correct? They can't be wrong, if your top 10 differs, you change your top 10 to match theirs, correct?

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You make huge accusations of nothing sometimes.

Jerry West is one of the best basketball minds, general managers, and graders of talent ever in addition to being a legendary player who is underrated on the all-time scale.

I think he has more than proven himself that what he says about the sport should be taken seriously. I would honestly believe just about everything he said with regards to basketball in a serious context.

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That doesn't even get into the obvious biases they'd have towards the Laker player.

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???

How do you have bias towards a Laker when only ranking the all-time great Lakers?

From my own eyes, statistics, and learning about the opinions of many others who are much more educated on the subject often have Kobe Bryant as one of the ten greatest players of all-time. As I result, I have formed the opinion that Kobe is top ten. Having a guy like Jerry West agree with my opinion is only a good thing.

As far as the "drive" stuff goes, I think it is most than fair to say that Kobe works about as hard as any player. There are countless anecdotes, hours of video footage, etc of Kobe spending almost every waking hour working on his game. People talk and write about this for a reason. It is because Kobe's work ethic is not really human. It is practically unparalleled in the sports world.

You do not hear these stories about many other players and none to the extreme that you hear about it with Kobe. But go ahead, make an assumption that cannot be proven that some 12th man works just as hard as Kobe, but I can for sure tell you that we would have heard about it.

I am not saying that Kobe has the most "drive" or whatever is being said in this thread, but you will not trust anything unless it comes in a numerical form as a rate statistic.

Feel free to keep fanning the flames of shitty threads by posting lol and without providing any actual substance as usual.