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re: Les Miles, how great is he... The Best LSU has ever had

Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by SouthdownsTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
631 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:24 pm to
This is a toughie and I'm going to try a new angle here to support my view that Saban remains the best LSU has had....thusfar.

Imagine if Saban had stayed another 5 years at LSU for arguement's sake. How many titles would LSU have likely won? 2-3 imo....as opposed to LM's 1 in 2007.

But this battle isn't over yet, not by a long shot. LM has shown a capacity for change the last few years which has resulted in a resurgence instead of what many predicted to be a downslope in the program. LM is doing more delegating out to highly qualified assistants and taken on the role of LSU's 'GM' where he is the head recruiter and face of the program, a role he's perfectly suited for.

LM is 1b to Saban as of right now imo, but this battle has yet to be definitively decided. We'll see...

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:28 pm to
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I'm going to try a new angle here to support my view that Saban remains the best LSU has had


quote:

Imagine if Saban had stayed another 5 years at LSU for arguement's sake. How many titles would LSU have likely won? 2-3 imo....as opposed to LM's 1 in 2007.



so your new angle is hypotheticals.....seems reasonable
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Imagine if Saban had stayed another 5 years at LSU for arguement's sake. How many titles would LSU have likely won? 2-3 imo....as opposed to LM's 1 in 2007.


Which ones, and why?

After 2003, LSU took a solid step back in 2004. We got prison raped in Athens...we've yet to have a loss that bad (and don't even suggest the rematch with BAMA) under Miles in a marquee game. While Miles gets ripped for so many players leaving early, Saban was lauded for having Clayton, Mauck and Hill declare early. You think we'd have been better off in 2004 with those three back?

Would they have won in 2005? Is anyone under the impression Saban would have been the better coach to lead LSU's program through Katrina and Rita? A guy wound up tighter than a drum in a situation where for very long stretches things were nearly uncontrollable?

What about 2006? You think we call a different offensive game in Auburn in a defensive struggle with the same OC Saban had? Does Saban's "presence" get the officials to NOT pick up the PI flag? Does Saban being there prevent a bad center/QB exchange on the goal line at UF and a subsequent turnover on the opening kick off?

How do we know he still wins in 2007? After all, we need Perriloux on the team to win in the SECCG, and he was not coming when Saban was still here. Or is the assumption Saban would not have lost to Arky (yeah, right) or UK (miracles to win anyone?)

I could do this for the entire run, and it would be as likely to have happened as anything postulated. Because I, like everyone else, would simply be guessing.

I love what if's...I do. But anytime someone says that something would have likely happened if as if coming from a place of authority, they are talking squarely out of their arse.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18783 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:17 am to
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Imagine if Saban had stayed another 5 years at LSU for arguement's sake. How many titles would LSU have likely won? 2-3 imo....as opposed to LM's 1 in 2007

And what does this have to do with his record as LSUs actual coach? We understand that in your mind he does great things and even let's you wipe your chin after. I just want to know do you wake up right after handing him the Debbie Cakes ?
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