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re: What are the boards thoughts on the .357 Sig? Is it superior to the .40 Cal?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:39 pm to Clames
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:39 pm to Clames
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Originally envisioned as a do-all combat round.
What some call a "combat round" is nothing but a glorified term for a self defense round. No one in their right mind would willingly go into combat with nothing more than a handgun, when they could use a rifle. As Colonel Cooper said. A handgun is just something to get you to a rifle or shotgun.
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In fact, today most commercial 10mm Auto isn't loaded nearly as hot as the original Norma loadings. So pretty much everyone harping about how strong 10mm Auto is, is shooting neutered loads that brought about the .40 S&W that they deride. It's very funny really.
This may be true for some, but when I speak of a particular round, I mean what the round was originally designed to do. Not what some lawyer says is the "lawsuit proof" loading. The 10mm Auto, in its original form, launched a 170 grain bullet at 1,300fps or a 200 grain bullet at 1,200fps. When I load for my SW 1006, these are the ballistics I try to achieve and do, quite successfully.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:29 pm to Buck_Rogers
When the top loads of 40 s&w are used it has very similar energy to the sig 357. Calibers are pretty close and equal.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 3:59 pm to Buck_Rogers
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What some call a "combat round" is nothing but a glorified term for a self defense round. No one in their right mind would willingly go into combat with nothing more than a handgun, when they could use a rifle. As Colonel Cooper said. A handgun is just something to get you to a rifle or shotgun.
Col. Cooper is who envisioned it as a combat round since he had a lot of input on the mid-bore, high velocity pistol cartridge concept. As for the purely self-defence argument, no that isn't the intent and combat is a better term since this was intended to have downrange energy far above what is needed for strictly self-defense requirements. If you research Cooper's philosophy on the subject you'll understand why he felt it was important for a fast, high sectional density bullet that could carry more punch at 100yds than a standard .45ACP develops at the muzzle and have the fast reloading and capacity of a semi-auto. Remember the FBI got involved after the Miami shoot out where agents were engaging far outside typical self-defense range. He specifically called it a combat round for good reason.
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This may be true for some,
It's true for the vast majority. Only a tiny fraction of Glock 20 owners are hand loading or only sourcing boutique ammo that approaches or exceeds the original specs. Vast majority are using off-the-shelf ammo that is little to no hotter than the FBI spec.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 4:00 pm
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