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re: What are the boards thoughts on the .357 Sig? Is it superior to the .40 Cal?

Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:50 pm to
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Please enlighten me on what the 10mm was originally designed for.


Originally envisioned as a do-all combat round.

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Maybe the recoil was a myth and maybe it wasn't, but no one can argue that the 40 did not start off as a full power 10mm.


Recoil was in the ballpark of the .45ACP in similar weight guns. So hardly a bruiser. The .40 S&W did not start off as the full power 10mm Auto loadings. Started as the lighter FBI loadings. In fact, today most commercial 10mm Auto isn't loaded nearly as hot as the original Norma loadings. So pretty much everyone harping about how strong 10mm Auto is, is shooting neutered loads that brought about the .40 S&W that they deride. It's very funny really.
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:12 pm to


220 grain hard cast. 1300fps. Death.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:39 pm to
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Originally envisioned as a do-all combat round.

What some call a "combat round" is nothing but a glorified term for a self defense round. No one in their right mind would willingly go into combat with nothing more than a handgun, when they could use a rifle. As Colonel Cooper said. A handgun is just something to get you to a rifle or shotgun.

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In fact, today most commercial 10mm Auto isn't loaded nearly as hot as the original Norma loadings. So pretty much everyone harping about how strong 10mm Auto is, is shooting neutered loads that brought about the .40 S&W that they deride. It's very funny really.


This may be true for some, but when I speak of a particular round, I mean what the round was originally designed to do. Not what some lawyer says is the "lawsuit proof" loading. The 10mm Auto, in its original form, launched a 170 grain bullet at 1,300fps or a 200 grain bullet at 1,200fps. When I load for my SW 1006, these are the ballistics I try to achieve and do, quite successfully.
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