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re: Cake baker loses appeal... Must bake for all people
Posted on 5/31/14 at 6:33 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 5/31/14 at 6:33 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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You are either unaware that Jesus declared all foods clean, in which case you fail, or you know better but are being willfully dishonest, in which case you also fail.
Link? Or are you being willfully dishonest?
Jesus was a Jew. He didn't stop being a Jew.
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That doesn't invalidate the marriage. Maybe you should do your homework before posting.
Now you're being willfully obtuse. His point was, if a Christian cannot service a gay wedding because sex between people of the same sex is a sin, then to be consistent, he must also deny service here because premarital sex is a sin.
But you knew that. You may not have known Jesus was a Jew and remained kosher, but you knew premarital sex was a sin.
Eta: a better analogy might be marriage where one or both was previously married. Jesus said that was an adultery and we know adultery is an abomination.
Thus to be a truly consistent Christian one cannot bake a cake at a wedding where at least one person was a divorcee. Unless his name is Revelator who apparently has been given a pass by Jesus. :-)
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 6:37 pm
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:39 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Link? Or are you being willfully dishonest?
Mark 7:19. This isn't complicated...you threw a hanging curveball with that one.
LINK
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His point was, if a Christian cannot service a gay wedding because sex between people of the same sex is a sin, then to be consistent, he must also deny service here because premarital sex is a sin.
You really don't get it, do you? It has nothing to do with the couple being "sinners". The issue is that the baker views the same-sex wedding as a sin and does not wish to actively participate.
In your scenario where the bride is pregnant, the baker did not participate in, or in any way aid and abet, the premarital sex. So you're comparing apples to kumquats.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:15 am to Vegas Bengal
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Now you're being willfully obtuse. His point was, if a Christian cannot service a gay wedding because sex between people of the same sex is a sin, then to be consistent, he must also deny service here because premarital sex is a sin.
But you knew that. You may not have known Jesus was a Jew and remained kosher, but you knew premarital sex was a sin.
Eta: a better analogy might be marriage where one or both was previously married. Jesus said that was an adultery and we know adultery is an abomination.
Thus to be a truly consistent Christian one cannot bake a cake at a wedding where at least one person was a divorcee. Unless his name is Revelator who apparently has been given a pass by Jesus.
Why does a business owner have to be consistent on how he chooses to do business? If business owner feels bad for a homeless person one day, does that mean he can NEVER refuse service again lest he be deemed inconsistent and compelled to always serve the homeless even if it drives away other customers?
Can't he refuse people who wear red shirts on Tuesday but allow it on Wednesday since IT'S HIS PROPERTY AND HIS WORK! He shouldn't have to pass a logical litmus test.
Or how about this--the government can start compelling people to take actions against their will if their reasoning is inconsistent...as soon as the government's reasoning is fully consistent. I can live with that.
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