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re: How would you guys feel about Ryan Shazier?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:47 pm to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:47 pm to FootballNostradamus
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FootballNostradamus
You make some very good points on Shazier which many I agree with. I understand where you are coming from but your approach is only going to draw negative responses.
No matter what Shazier's measurables are he plays very "soft" especially against the run. He gets caught up in the wash far too much. That something that cannot be changed with coaching. Take Khalil Mack as an example. He uses great technique but he also has a natural ability to disengage blockers & get to ball carriers. Mack will be a great one whether he plays inside or outside, 3-4 or 4-3, it doesn't matter. I don't see that type of ability from Shazier.
It isn't just with Shazier but Bradley Roby as well. Bradley was terrible at times for Ohio St. this past season but because of great combine & workout numbers, he's being hyped as a can't miss product. He's not a great corner. He has poor fundementals as well as a poor attitude. He's had character issues on & off the field but there's some who are infatuated with drafting Roby but at the same time throw out character issues as reasons to not draft other players. I really don't get it.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:58 pm to BigBrod81
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You make some very good points on Shazier which many I agree with. I understand where you are coming from but your approach is only going to draw negative responses.
Yea, probably could have toned it down, but people have just been obsessed with this guy lately and he screams bust to me.
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No matter what Shazier's measurables are he plays very "soft" especially against the run. He gets caught up in the wash far too much. That something that cannot be changed with coaching.
This is why the David comment is so ridiculous to me. If anyone has watched David play or saw him at Nebraska, they'd know that he's nothing like Shazier. David moves laterally extremely well, but his biggest skill is his ability to square-up and get downhill instantly.
If you try to send a FB his way or even wham him he's going to blow shite up. If he can't disengage and make the play that's fine, but he understands leverage and force technique. Shazier will get put on skates and probably make the tackle 8 yards downfield. He'll get credit for a tackle but the offense gets 8 yards whereas David won't get credit but the ILB flowing to him and will make the stop at the LOS. I'd be willing to bet over half of Shazier's tackles took place further than 5 yards past the LOS.
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Take Khalil Mack as an example. He uses great technique but he also has a natural ability to disengage blockers & get to ball carriers. Mack will be a great one whether he plays inside or outside, 3-4 or 4-3, it doesn't matter.
Mack's technique is brilliant. His hands and understanding of leverage makes him borderline indefensible. He's gonna be a great one for somebody.
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It isn't just with Shazier but Bradley Roby as well. Bradley was terrible at times for Ohio St. this past season but because of great combine & workout numbers, he's being hyped as a can't miss product. He's not a great corner.
Completely agree. Keep Roby the hell away from the black and gold. He's a fringe 2nd round pick IMO.
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