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re: How would you guys feel about Ryan Shazier?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:59 pm to BigBrod81
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:59 pm to BigBrod81
This board's recent obsession with Shazier is nauseating. Not one person claiming we should draft him has alluded to a single aspect of his game that isn't based on combine measureables. Thank God this new regime actually watches film and is done taking workout warriors. Shazier would be a horrible pick at 27.
He's not a downhill player in the slightest. He gets absolutely swallowed up whenever you force him at the point of attack. He's not a natural blitzer and for someone as fast and athletic as he is, his pass coverage leaves alot to be desired. He doesn't have the natural instincs others do in coverage. His gap discipline is also laughable at times (and this isn't as easily coached as people think).
Watch the tape on Shazier, it doesn't lie. I would HATE this pick.
He's not a downhill player in the slightest. He gets absolutely swallowed up whenever you force him at the point of attack. He's not a natural blitzer and for someone as fast and athletic as he is, his pass coverage leaves alot to be desired. He doesn't have the natural instincs others do in coverage. His gap discipline is also laughable at times (and this isn't as easily coached as people think).
Watch the tape on Shazier, it doesn't lie. I would HATE this pick.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:05 pm to FootballNostradamus
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This board's recent obsession with Shazier is nauseating. Not one person claiming we should draft him has alluded to a single aspect of his game that isn't based on combine measureables.
To be fair, no one on this board has the time to watch game tape on every possible player the team could draft.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:01 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:Disagree with all of that except for getting swallowed up if a lineman gets to him.
He's not a downhill player in the slightest. He gets absolutely swallowed up whenever you force him at the point of attack. He's not a natural blitzer and for someone as fast and athletic as he is, his pass coverage leaves alot to be desired. He doesn't have the natural instincs others do in coverage. His gap discipline is also laughable at times (and this isn't as easily coached as people think).
Someone posted his "worst" games and they weren't bad at all. He made some bad plays but watching it a lot of being out of position is from the playing calling putting him in zone.
A big flaw with that was his was so quick to get to his zone he would be there before he read the play. But then you see him come flying back in and half the time he still made the play.
He is extremely good going downhill on the blitz or run as long as you keep him clean. He's not a big run stuffing LB so it's not like you'd expect him to take on a guy weighing 60-100 lbs more and have him win consistently.
And again most of his coverage "issues" was the zones they were playing. When he was manned up he held his own more often than not.
And I see plenty of natural instincts, but he lacks the discipline to wait that one second to read the play before dropping into zone. That can be coached and we also play less zone in our defense.
The biggest issue I have we him that you didn't mention was his tendency to arm tackle. That drives me nuts and reminds me a bit of Jenkins, though he is much better at it. It's also coachable but that would be the biggest issue keeping me away.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 10:06 pm
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