re: Snowden and Putin really throwing it down on us now.

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this is true but you learn from history and the tactics they used to easily round people up. Also I'm not sure how well that would work in the US considering how vast our borders are. It might not be easy if you wait to the actual collapse but if you start to jump before hand then it wouldn't be so bad.

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If we were to fail now there would be no escape as we are the engine that runs the world's economy. Perhaps China will develop a middle class and this will change over time but that remains to be seen. I don't believe Russia will ever have a middle class as they never have in the existence of those people. They like Czars, communism, and dictators(Putin). They are a very subserviant people as long as the person calling the shots is a Ruskie.