re: My Top 30 Rankings for European Clubs

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good rankings IMO. my only distinction would be i'd combine two of your groups and do 6-13. though chelsea, since the addition of Matic, might should be added into the tier above where they are. still, can't disagree much with anything you put.

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Good points. . . rankings to me are interesting in that they're so imperfect and especially with European clubs due to the lack of many head to head matches.

I did think about what you mentioned as the teams get really hard to separate.

Chelsea certainly can be one of the primary ones to move up quickly if they win the EPL and impress in the CL.

As for the 9-13 group, my thought was simply that I couldn't bump Roma and Napoli up as a pick'em with Juventus when Juve has obviously been so much better and decided not to move them that much below Arsenal and Dortmund based on how even all the head to head matches have been.