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Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:42 am to TigerWise
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:42 am to TigerWise
Houston had an incredible amout of growth in the 60's/70's and 90's. That brought alot of cheap labor to the area. To build homes/roads etc. that cheap labor is usually messicans. the 80's saw alot of depression and alot of the people that came here for jobs were out of work. then crime happens. that creates an effect over generations.
Houston was the also the first southern city to immediately remove all elements of segregation. The city officials then thought that segregation would be bad for recruiting new businesses to the area(doubt we would have NASA if this wasnt done) Incredible foresight by the city leaders then. That brought alot of blacks from around the south looking for jobs to the city to grow a family.
White flight has been happening in the city since the 60's.
that is the genesis of it.
Today Houston still has alot of blue collar jobs that is not attractive to everyone. THink oil rigs/construction etc.
You can assume away why we have bad neighborhoods and crime. (every city does BTW)
Austin benefits from alot of white collar jobs and a liberalism that is focused in the right way. Very accepting of other people and cultures. Even though there is alot of covert racism in the city/state government.
Dallas is right in between Houston in regards to what your talking about. dallas just has shitty people.
Houston was the also the first southern city to immediately remove all elements of segregation. The city officials then thought that segregation would be bad for recruiting new businesses to the area(doubt we would have NASA if this wasnt done) Incredible foresight by the city leaders then. That brought alot of blacks from around the south looking for jobs to the city to grow a family.
White flight has been happening in the city since the 60's.
that is the genesis of it.
Today Houston still has alot of blue collar jobs that is not attractive to everyone. THink oil rigs/construction etc.
You can assume away why we have bad neighborhoods and crime. (every city does BTW)
Austin benefits from alot of white collar jobs and a liberalism that is focused in the right way. Very accepting of other people and cultures. Even though there is alot of covert racism in the city/state government.
Dallas is right in between Houston in regards to what your talking about. dallas just has shitty people.
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:45 am to cjared036
Interesting
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:47 am to cjared036
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White flight has been happening in the city since the 60's.
Happened in many cities but now are seeing the exact opposite happening. At least in NOLA and Houston.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/5/14 at 11:13 am to cjared036
One of the things about Dallas is that you are looking at the Dallas AREA (DFW to some) not just the City of Dallas. With Houston, since Houston is so much larger than its suburbs, its not really comparable to DFW in terms of how growth and urban issues are handled. In fact, it is probably more like New Orleans in that way...
Part of what I think people see in terms of similarities between Houston and New Orleans (aside from the Louisiana transplants) are the effects of weaker or non-existent suburbs as seen in Houston and New Orleans. Dallas has many more larger municipal governments that focus their attention on smaller areas. Houston and New Orleans are the respective 800 lb. gorillas in their areas. The "competition" between cities in those two areas is limited and Dallas does not see the demands on services that a Houston or New Orleans does because it has several relatively strong neighbors.
Take a look at these lists:
DFW Area (6,817,483)
13 Cities with 100,000 — 1,000,000+ inhabitants
Dallas (1,207,420)
Fort Worth (757,810)
Arlington (365,860)
Plano (261,900)
Garland (228,060)
Irving (218,850)
Grand Prairie (176,980)
Mesquite (139,950)
McKinney (136,180)
Frisco (125,500)
Carrollton (121,150)
Denton (115,810)
Richardson (100,450)
51 Cities with 10,000 to 99,999 inhabitants
Houston area (6,371,677))
1 City with more than 2,000,000 inhabitants
Houston (2,160,821)
2 Cities with 100,000 to 1,999,999 inhabitants
Pasadena (149,043)
Pearland (106,500)
29 Cities with 10,000 to 99,999 inhabitants
New Orleans area (1,167,764)
1 City with more than 300,000 inhabitants
New Orleans (369,250)
2 Cities with over 50,000 inhabitants
Kenner (66,702)
Metairie, unincorporated (138,481)
18 Cities/Places with 10,000 - 50,000 inhabitants
Part of what I think people see in terms of similarities between Houston and New Orleans (aside from the Louisiana transplants) are the effects of weaker or non-existent suburbs as seen in Houston and New Orleans. Dallas has many more larger municipal governments that focus their attention on smaller areas. Houston and New Orleans are the respective 800 lb. gorillas in their areas. The "competition" between cities in those two areas is limited and Dallas does not see the demands on services that a Houston or New Orleans does because it has several relatively strong neighbors.
Take a look at these lists:
DFW Area (6,817,483)
13 Cities with 100,000 — 1,000,000+ inhabitants
Dallas (1,207,420)
Fort Worth (757,810)
Arlington (365,860)
Plano (261,900)
Garland (228,060)
Irving (218,850)
Grand Prairie (176,980)
Mesquite (139,950)
McKinney (136,180)
Frisco (125,500)
Carrollton (121,150)
Denton (115,810)
Richardson (100,450)
51 Cities with 10,000 to 99,999 inhabitants
Houston area (6,371,677))
1 City with more than 2,000,000 inhabitants
Houston (2,160,821)
2 Cities with 100,000 to 1,999,999 inhabitants
Pasadena (149,043)
Pearland (106,500)
29 Cities with 10,000 to 99,999 inhabitants
New Orleans area (1,167,764)
1 City with more than 300,000 inhabitants
New Orleans (369,250)
2 Cities with over 50,000 inhabitants
Kenner (66,702)
Metairie, unincorporated (138,481)
18 Cities/Places with 10,000 - 50,000 inhabitants
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