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re: Sorry, but Payton should have gone for the first down there
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:35 pm to DelU249
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:35 pm to DelU249
Your post hoc reasoning is laughable. The question is not what happened afterward, but what should have been called at the time of the play.
And you'd be agreeing with me if Steven Jackson had held onto the pass he should have caught.
And, by the way, the posts that insinuate that Sean Payton can't make a mistake are BEYOND laughable, although I don't see it so much a gaffe as something that would have been a bit wiser, instead.
And you'd be agreeing with me if Steven Jackson had held onto the pass he should have caught.
And, by the way, the posts that insinuate that Sean Payton can't make a mistake are BEYOND laughable, although I don't see it so much a gaffe as something that would have been a bit wiser, instead.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:54 pm to Rex
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Your post hoc reasoning is laughable. The question is not what happened afterward, but what should have been called at the time of the play.
I agree with this. It is a logic flaw to use hindsight to support/argue against a 50/50 type of call.
However, it is also faulty to definitively call either decision absolutely correct...or absolutely wrong. The percentages were close enough that a subjective decision to go one way or another by the coach was very reasonable.
Was it more likely that this specific Saints defense against that Atl offense gives up a TD in the time remaining? (keep in mind, there was also a chance that Atlanta scores a TD and the Saints still win by putting together a game winning FG drive. You need to consider that.)
Or, is it more likely that the Saints convert on 4th down and 2?
It isn't clear cut. Anyone saying different is incorrect.
What is clear cut is that the timeout decisions (to use one when we had the ball on 4th down and to not use one after Atl's 2nd down and goal) were absolutely poor decisions and hurt the teams chances of winning the game.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:59 pm to Rex
if he had, this this happened, if if if if should should should should
It comes down to whether or not Payton, who knows our offense better than anyone because it is his god damn team, liked our chances in that situation against the consequences of what would happen if we didn't get it.
How many times has he seen the falcons go down the field in 1 minute and kick a FG to win/tie the game. It is a certainty at this point. They did exactly that, only matt bryant didn't get the chance to save matty ice's arse and they had the additional pressure of having to score a TD...which they could not do.
keep playing the if game, you don't know what the frick you are talking about, and I am thoroughly enjoying owning you.
It comes down to whether or not Payton, who knows our offense better than anyone because it is his god damn team, liked our chances in that situation against the consequences of what would happen if we didn't get it.
How many times has he seen the falcons go down the field in 1 minute and kick a FG to win/tie the game. It is a certainty at this point. They did exactly that, only matt bryant didn't get the chance to save matty ice's arse and they had the additional pressure of having to score a TD...which they could not do.
keep playing the if game, you don't know what the frick you are talking about, and I am thoroughly enjoying owning you.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:15 pm to Rex
The field goal was the safer option for Payton to take. As it turned out, it was the correct choice. The decision to go for it on 4th was high risk - high reward. We had been stuffed earlier when he tried it and also our defense had been getting the better of the falcons in the second half. I wanted Payton to go for it, but kicking the field goal was absolutely not the "wrong" thing to do.
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