re: After Today's Fiasco is Federer NOW GREATER than Nadal?

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I think it depends on how you define better. Nadal is clearly a better clay court player than Federer. On hard courts and grass, Fed has a way more impressive resume and has held his own against Nadal (8-7 Fed lead).

I find if kind of funny that Fed being the second best clay court player of his generation has hurt his standing in a lot of people's eyes. If he'd been like Sampras and routinely lost in the 4th round of clay court tourneys, his h-2-h with Nadal would look a lot better.

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I agree.

1. Fed clearly has a better overall resume at this point, but Nadal probably has more tennis left in him than Fed (assuming Nadal's knees hold up).

2. The head to head is hard to ignore, Nadal really has owned Fed.

3. That being said, the head to head is a bit misleading b/c Nadal would lose fairly often in early rounds of non clay tourneys when Fed was in his prime, thus preventing Fed from getting to play him as often on grass and hard court.

4. I don't think today's match really has too much of an impact on the overall argument. These guys have played in a lot of tournaments through the years.