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re: The importance of seeding - with numbers
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:35 pm to eelsuee
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:35 pm to eelsuee
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Getting tired of people saying the seeding doesn't matter... or it is all geographic...
There are 16 of each seed #1,#2,#3 & #4. I am including the highest, lowest and average RPI and ranking for each seed. I used the USA today ranking since it went up to #44. Since there are 64 teams I gave unranked teams a ranking of 54 (average of 64 and 54) to not mess up the average too badly.
Seed, High RPI, Low RPI, Avg RPI, High rank, low rank, avg rank
1 1 19 9 1 22 9 (0 unranked teams)
2 12 50 28.7 15 54 31.5 (4 unranked teams)
3 26 120 50.7 19 54 44.6 (9 unranked teams)
4 79 251 147 32 54 50.9 (13 unranked teams)
Putting an average rank of 54 for unranked teams closed the gap a lot for avg ranking, but I think this is pretty convincing that on average the higher the seed, the better the team.
Ok. After reading your post, I finally understand it...and it is embarrassingly obvious.
People aren't talking about the seeding within the 16 regionals...they are talking about the national seeding. Go do an analysis of the #1-#8 national seeds as it relates to:
a.) making the CWS
and
b.) winning the CWS
Then you can explain to us how it makes a difference.
Posted on 5/27/13 at 10:58 pm to moneyg
...and it still doesn't. Looking at the top 4 seeds, the avg RPI of the opponents that they have to face (counting the opposite bracket that they are paired with) is:
1.) UNC - 53
2.) Vandy - 62
3.) Oregon St - 56
4.) LSU - 70
The #1 seed technically got the toughest draw. Here are each team's three top challengers to get to Omaha:
1.) UNC - USCe, Clemson, Florida Atlantic
2.) Vandy - Louisville, Miami, Georgia Tech
3.) Oregon St - Arkansas, Kansas St, Texas A&M
4.) LSU - Virginia Tech, ULL, Oklahoma
Which looks better to you, #1 or #4?
Make the top 8, host throughout. After that matchups matter a hell of a lot more than seeding, and being the higher seed seldom gains you anything on who you draw.
1.) UNC - 53
2.) Vandy - 62
3.) Oregon St - 56
4.) LSU - 70
The #1 seed technically got the toughest draw. Here are each team's three top challengers to get to Omaha:
1.) UNC - USCe, Clemson, Florida Atlantic
2.) Vandy - Louisville, Miami, Georgia Tech
3.) Oregon St - Arkansas, Kansas St, Texas A&M
4.) LSU - Virginia Tech, ULL, Oklahoma
Which looks better to you, #1 or #4?
Make the top 8, host throughout. After that matchups matter a hell of a lot more than seeding, and being the higher seed seldom gains you anything on who you draw.
This post was edited on 5/27/13 at 11:01 pm
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