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re: 1140 Yards, 11 Touchdowns, 0 Interceptions, beat Manning AND Brady on the road

Posted on 2/4/13 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 2:52 pm to
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QB play =/= success on the field

Um, yes it is. Notice anything about the "elite" QBs? They all have winning records, and almost all of them have at least one Superbowl ring.
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There are awesome QBs with mediocre w/l records

Depends on what you consider mediocre. Earlier in this thread, I asked:
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Can [anyone] name ONE great QB (past or present) who didn't/doesn't have a good W/L ratio?

No legitimate answer has been provided yet.
This post was edited on 2/4/13 at 3:00 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 2:58 pm to
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No legitimate has been provided yet.


Dan fouts

Your confusing certainty with correlation
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 3:14 pm to
Ozzie Newsome deserves the most praise, not Joe Flacco . He put competent players at almost every position on that Baltimore team. Joe Flacco's success is a byproduct of that.

People want to harp on his success, most notably his playoff success. Look at his stats.. QB ratings of 59, 10, 18, 61, 48. Sure, he played well this postseason and beat some good defenses.



Even still, his 86 playoff QB rating would have tied Cam Newtwon for 15th overall this past season. His 55% completion percentage would fall 29th this season, one spot behind Jake Locker. He has 2 300 yard games out of 13. 4 games he threw 0 TDs, and 2 games he threw 1 TD.

Has Joe Flacco led teams had success? Sure. Has he "won" the games? Meh. Without Jacoby Jones he isnt a Super Bowl winning QB.

If Kaepernick gets his team into the endzone at the end, does that change his legacy and his perceived accomplishments?
This post was edited on 2/4/13 at 3:16 pm
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