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re: Norway, Switzerland, Iceland ... the United Kingdom???
Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:32 pm to Doc Fenton
Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:32 pm to Doc Fenton
2 things:
1.) It's just in the British DNA to always have flexibility in its ties to Europe. From balance of power to the Euro, they always have put Europe at arms length.
2.) The fact that its the Conservatives negotiating instead of Labour is key. The Euroskeptics will force Cameron to negotiate something that doesn't conflict with point 1.
I don't see anyway they vote for closer ties or anything that will remotely impede on their sovereignty.
So basically, Cameron wants to try to remain in the EU but also please Euroskeptics.
If this was Labour negotiating the result of the UK referendum will be a resounding "out". But since its the Tories then it has a chance.
1.) It's just in the British DNA to always have flexibility in its ties to Europe. From balance of power to the Euro, they always have put Europe at arms length.
2.) The fact that its the Conservatives negotiating instead of Labour is key. The Euroskeptics will force Cameron to negotiate something that doesn't conflict with point 1.
I don't see anyway they vote for closer ties or anything that will remotely impede on their sovereignty.
So basically, Cameron wants to try to remain in the EU but also please Euroskeptics.
If this was Labour negotiating the result of the UK referendum will be a resounding "out". But since its the Tories then it has a chance.
This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 1:48 pm
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:44 pm to blowmeauburn
To be honest, I'm a little confused about the coming negotiation mandate they are going to attempt to pass after the next parliamentary elections.
(A) Are they going to be negotiating for more flexibility within the EU system?
or...
(B) Are they going to be negotiating for an alternative system to replace the EU system?
It seems like they are trying to do (A), in which case Cameron & the Conservatives will be trying to orchestrate a "stay in" vote in the 2017 referendum.
Of course, all that is contingent upon the Conservatives winning the next parliamentary elections rather than getting thrown out on their asses by Labour, in which case Cameron might turn around and starting arguing for an "out" vote.
Whatever occurs, the next round of British elections should be interesting.
(A) Are they going to be negotiating for more flexibility within the EU system?
or...
(B) Are they going to be negotiating for an alternative system to replace the EU system?
It seems like they are trying to do (A), in which case Cameron & the Conservatives will be trying to orchestrate a "stay in" vote in the 2017 referendum.
Of course, all that is contingent upon the Conservatives winning the next parliamentary elections rather than getting thrown out on their asses by Labour, in which case Cameron might turn around and starting arguing for an "out" vote.
Whatever occurs, the next round of British elections should be interesting.
Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:54 pm to blowmeauburn
quote:
So basically, Cameron wants to try to remain in the EU but also please Euroskeptics.
If this was Labour negotiating the result of the UK referendum will be a resounding "out". But since its the Tories then it has a chance.
This sounds about right to me, and also indicates that he will have some serious negotiating power when he meets with EU politicians.
What might happen is that the UK negotiates so many special rules for itself (in order to protect its finance sector), that its relationship inside the EU will be roughly equivalent to Switzerland's relationship outside the EU.
It'll just be the same thing with a different name ... if Cameron is able to get the details right. It'll be one hell of a delicate 5-year balancing act to perform.
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