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re: MSB Season Long Hockey Thread
Posted on 4/21/13 at 9:55 am to LSUCanFAN
Posted on 4/21/13 at 9:55 am to LSUCanFAN
OK... since today's schedule is rather underwhelming, let's argue postseason awards.
HART
Crosby was amazing for 36 games, but unfortunately, that means hes missed a quarter of the season. It appears his scoring total will be caught, and the Pens have kept rolling without him, which hurts his case. Ovie is now on pace to win the Richard, and he might catch Crosby on points. His 36 games are better than Crosby's 36 games. Of course, there's those 1st 12 games in which Ovie was mediocre at best. Still, mediocre is literally better than nothing, the Caps went 2-8-1 when Ovie didn't produce, and Ovie spent those 1st 11 games learning a new position and a new system. Head to head, I think you have to take Ovie. But if you want to give demerits for the first quarter of the year, I understand. Kane and Toews sort of cancel each other out in Chicago, and Getzlaf is quietly putting together an awesome year in Anaheim. But I'd vote for Tavares. The Isles are a horrible team without him, he has 45 points, and five game winning goals. The 5 GWG is what puts me over the edge (Ovie and Toews have 4). I'm going Tavares.
NORRIS
Doughty and Subban are the two league leaders in Corsi among those who aren't getting sheltered minutes (some guys have less shots against, but start 60% of the time in the offensive zone, where its hard to allow a shot). Either one is a worthy winner, but given Subban's offensive contributions as well, I think he's the easy choice.
VEZINA
Bobrovsky has a 931 save percentage. Niemi has a 927. Bob has a top five GAA while Niemi leads the NHL in wins. Basically, Niemi faces more shots and plays more minutes. I love the idea of a C-bus player winning an award, any award, but Niemi is one of two goalies to have faced 1000 shots (King Henry is the other). No team has relied more heavily on their goalie than the Sharks, and the Sharks are the better team. I won't bitch about Bobrovsky winning it, but I think Niemi has been better.
HART
Crosby was amazing for 36 games, but unfortunately, that means hes missed a quarter of the season. It appears his scoring total will be caught, and the Pens have kept rolling without him, which hurts his case. Ovie is now on pace to win the Richard, and he might catch Crosby on points. His 36 games are better than Crosby's 36 games. Of course, there's those 1st 12 games in which Ovie was mediocre at best. Still, mediocre is literally better than nothing, the Caps went 2-8-1 when Ovie didn't produce, and Ovie spent those 1st 11 games learning a new position and a new system. Head to head, I think you have to take Ovie. But if you want to give demerits for the first quarter of the year, I understand. Kane and Toews sort of cancel each other out in Chicago, and Getzlaf is quietly putting together an awesome year in Anaheim. But I'd vote for Tavares. The Isles are a horrible team without him, he has 45 points, and five game winning goals. The 5 GWG is what puts me over the edge (Ovie and Toews have 4). I'm going Tavares.
NORRIS
Doughty and Subban are the two league leaders in Corsi among those who aren't getting sheltered minutes (some guys have less shots against, but start 60% of the time in the offensive zone, where its hard to allow a shot). Either one is a worthy winner, but given Subban's offensive contributions as well, I think he's the easy choice.
VEZINA
Bobrovsky has a 931 save percentage. Niemi has a 927. Bob has a top five GAA while Niemi leads the NHL in wins. Basically, Niemi faces more shots and plays more minutes. I love the idea of a C-bus player winning an award, any award, but Niemi is one of two goalies to have faced 1000 shots (King Henry is the other). No team has relied more heavily on their goalie than the Sharks, and the Sharks are the better team. I won't bitch about Bobrovsky winning it, but I think Niemi has been better.
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Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:28 am to Baloo
I figure Ovie wins the Richard, Crosby's team kept rolling w/o him maybe John wins it...this is the hardest one to call obviously alwys is...Hart goes to Crosby in an 'upset'
Norris gonna be PK I figure, I figure Doughty might deserve it too but PK gets it, they love to give stuff to Habs players, makes em feeling like they are honoring the game or something...
Vezina goes to Bobbo unsung hero narrative, small market this is why we had the lock-out narrative...
Norris gonna be PK I figure, I figure Doughty might deserve it too but PK gets it, they love to give stuff to Habs players, makes em feeling like they are honoring the game or something...
Vezina goes to Bobbo unsung hero narrative, small market this is why we had the lock-out narrative...
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:41 am to Baloo
The no-brainers are the Selke and the Adams. While it's cool that Tornoto finally mad ethe playoffs and the Pens and Hawks have been awesome all year, Paul MacLean took a team that lost its two best players, and the best blueliner in the league, and still has them in the playoffs. MacLean should win unanimously for what he's done in Ottawa this year. Remarkable job.
As for the Selke, Patrice Bergeron has the 2nd best Corsi (9th best when adjusted for team), but he starts in the offensive zone only 42.5% of the time. No one is even close to that, among quality defensive forwards. He's getting the toughest minutes in the league, and still outperforming everyone. Bergeron is pretty much the only candidate, though we can throw in Datsyuk for old time's sake.
As for the Selke, Patrice Bergeron has the 2nd best Corsi (9th best when adjusted for team), but he starts in the offensive zone only 42.5% of the time. No one is even close to that, among quality defensive forwards. He's getting the toughest minutes in the league, and still outperforming everyone. Bergeron is pretty much the only candidate, though we can throw in Datsyuk for old time's sake.
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