re: There are more important things than a National Title

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our expectations . . . but we need to be more realistic

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Those suggesting we should actively replace Les are less than sober. I get that.

If you're going to introduce Bowden successes (and lack thereof) at FSU it should be pointed out that:
a) Bowden inherited an FSU program that was on the verge of being discontinued. There were zero expectations of success there. Completely dissimiliar from Les here in '05.
b) It wasn't until FSU actually won a NC in '93 that they expected to win them. It was six seasons later that they won their next, i.e., 2 in 7 seasons. That's better than Les.
c) FSU finished in the top-5 for 14 consecutive seasons.
d) Bowden won 377 games as HC. Not sure where Les stands but but he's probably has about 25 ten-win seasons to go to catch-up.

Watch this: coaches will always and without exception be evaluated on not only what they actually do accomplish but also what they within reason could have accomplished.

Bobby is still living. Maybe we should hire him?