re: So is it a general consensus that MW3 >>>>>>>>>> Black Ops 2

it's like i explained to vanderdoosh, about the maps.

You can make a large map, but after you put 30 buildings on it, it's a small map.

they tried to argue the size. i said go look at downfall,outskirts,seelow,etc those are large maps.

then go look at castle, courtyard,hangar those are medium and play medium maps.

Dome,subpens,etc those are your maps, all of them. shotguns,smg,etc are the rule of the map.

How can a company who created the best maps of multi, in WAW, create such garbage maps these days. They got so shitty, that they brought back Cliffside, as a new map, and shoved a golf course on it.

And BO2, is completely catered to MLG gaming. It wreaks of Vander doosh asking them for input on the game.